I am wanting to get a 97-00 Prelude and I have been searching on here like crazy but am getting mixed results. I want to know which model overall is a better car S or SH? thanks
Drew

 

hmm you prob mean base or sh.

depends on what you want to do with it and how much you're going to mod it.

the sh is better out of the box, the base is easier to mod.

 

why is the base model easier to mod??? the sh model has the H22 with att??
Drew

 

the atts system has problems with high horsepower (over ~250 whp) and is not compatible with an aftermarket LSD. it also weighs roughly 50 lbs more than a base.

 

is the base and the sh pretty much the same in performance? ive been searching how good are the tans in the 5th gen preludes any major problems??? that i need to look for??
thanks for your help Drew

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Drew_D791 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am wanting to get a 97-00 Prelude and I have been searching on here like crazy but am getting mixed results. I want to know which model overall is a better car S or SH? thanks
Drew</TD></TR></TABLE>
You mean base dude?

 

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the Sh has only 20 more HP i think</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's false, both the base model and the SH have about 200hp to the flywheel. Although when dyno'd and powered measured to the wheels the base model puts out a couple of more horses because the SH looses a bit more power due to the ATTS system robbing some ponies. It is also rumored that the SH cams are a bit more aggresive to make up for the power loss due to the ATTS, again just something I read, can't confirm it.

 

The base preludes aren't easier to modify. The SH prelude ATTS problem with high horsepower is that it shuts off in the range of 220-250 horsepower and becomes useless. The base and the SH have the same engine albeit the SH block is a little different with the oil filter being in a different location than the base prelude to accomodate ATTS. That is the only difference between the two motors they put tha same horsepower to the crank, cams are the same, everything else in the motor is the same. The base is the 'S', referring to it either way is correct. The chioce is yours, there is always going to be people for and against anything. Assess your own needs and make a desicion based off that.

 

really the only benefit of buying the SH would be out of the box handling. but if you plan on upgrading your suspension I would just stick with the base model. will cause you less problems in the long run.

and doing oil changes will be a hell of a lot easier. (i hated changing the oil in my SH)

 

the Type SH also looks better. nicer looking wheels,paint side skirts, wing is standard with led, front suspension is a little different,leather shift boot,ATTS, also for more info check out my site http://www.5thgenprelude.8m.com

 

If your going to drive the car stock, and never mod it, then get the SH.

If your going to do any upgrades engine or suspension then do NOT get the SH, your better off with the base.

If you like the side skirts, and wing you can just get those on the base. It does not have to be an SH for that.

 

let me clear it up:

if you want a drag car, get the base.

if you want a car for auto-xing, track, road courses...etc, get the SH.

you'll find parts easier for the base, for the SH you'll have to hunt.

you CAN mod the suspension on a SH, just don't slam it or you'll get the ATTS light.

if you want to go turbo with an SH, you can always disconnect the ATTS unit. there's a few people on this board who done it. the 50 lbs would just be dead weight, it won't really matter.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sticky Tires &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">let me clear it up:

if you want a drag car, get the base.

if you want a car for auto-xing, track, road courses...etc, get the SH.

you'll find parts easier for the base, for the SH you'll have to hunt.

you CAN mod the suspension on a SH, just don't slam it or you'll get the ATTS light.

if you want to go turbo with an SH, you can always disconnect the ATTS unit. there's a few people on this board who done it. the 50 lbs would just be dead weight, it won't really matter.</TD></TR></TABLE>

a couple points:

LSD &gt; ATTS on road courses and in Auto-X.

LSD not compatible with ATTS.

and 50lbs of dead weight does matter, especially when its at the front of the car.

other than that i agree with you.

 

excuse me for being a complete n00b, but what does ATTS stand for? I assume it is a traction control system, seeing as how it is being compared with horsepower and with LSD systems.

Thanks in advance,
GrapeLude

 

ATTS: Active Torque Transfer System.

It basically sends more power to the outside wheel when cornering making it spin 15% faster than the inside wheel.

 

That is pretty discouraging to people who are thinking about getting an SH. I am going to upgrade my suspension and build my motor and I am not one bit worried about my ATTS. I have front and rear swaybars and strut bars, and am saving for some teins which I will probably drop my lude about 1.5. When I have the money I am going all motor hoping for 225whp. My ATTS will probably still be opearional, but if it isn't, **** it. Dont hate on the SH, it is just as good a car to mod as the base. Of course it has its differences, but I am not at all worried about it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ProjectPenny &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That is pretty discouraging to people who are thinking about getting an SH. I am going to upgrade my suspension and build my motor and I am not one bit worried about my ATTS. I have front and rear swaybars and strut bars, and am saving for some teins which I will probably drop my lude about 1.5. When I have the money I am going all motor hoping for 225whp. My ATTS will probably still be opearional, but if it isn't, **** it. Dont hate on the SH, it is just as good a car to mod as the base. Of course it has its differences, but I am not at all worried about it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

great point

 

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a couple points:

LSD &gt; ATTS on road courses and in Auto-X.

LSD not compatible with ATTS.

and 50lbs of dead weight does matter, especially when its at the front of the car.

other than that i agree with you. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i agree with you on the LSD &gt; ATTS part.

50 lbs could be helped with CF hood/trunk/sunroof plug/gutted interior/light weight rims

but ain't it really on the driver when it comes to auto-x/road courses?

BTW, projectpenny you got a good point.

please don't get discouraged into not getting an SH, do more research and make a choice, either way you won't be disappointed... it's still a prelude!

 

the base is my preference but it's really nitpicking as far as my reasons why are concerned.

personally i feel you should by the best 5th gen you can in terms of miles, condition, etc--base or SH.

good point: driver skill is 90% of auto-x success.

 

w3rd y0