so where is it?? i wanna see pictures of the build!!!


it's just alittle hard to believe that it was done on stock parts without SLEEVINg! Hopefully this was not with the h23 crank and all .....i hope it was done with b series parts....

 

ef-1.com under special projects i believe he is on honda-tech his membername is omniman. here's the link http://ef-1.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=948

 

Stock parts with the exception of cams and springs of course.

It's not that hard to believe. Video documentary will be up soon I think.

 

Yep, it's real.

Bert-O supplied the 81.00mm P30 pistons and rings among other things.

Cams and springs and retainers were aftermarket tough.

Some video footage should be available soon of the build and dyno pulls.

Pulls were made at CAT's dyno too.

 

when???

 

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MikeSarrGSR, got more info on this?

You guys wanna see dynos? I can prolly have that up.

 

the head was hardly even done. I think it only had a valve job and minor cleaning...

 

i thought Omniman said he used pr3 pistons, not p30's.

 

car had full portflow head package.

 

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it did?

i thought it only had a portflow valve job

 

bump

 

It still doesn't have that much work put into it, imagine what it's capable of with different pistons and what not.

 

see even in the 13 post thread....there is so much missinformation....

it's hard to believe that it put out 200 with the mods listed!

 

Did you check this out? http://ef-1.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=948

 

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i thought he had a mild port?


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ya i know people have they stuff backwards. i cant wait for the video

 

I dunno....220 whp on a near stock head? In order for the B16 to take advantage of larger cams, they must have a bump in compression. This is especially true if the volumetric efficieny is good, which it is due to the B16's r/s ratio. A full Portflow may support 200 whp on stock compression, but damn....that's really good. Just don't know whether to believe it or not....

 

no no, its not 220.

the goal was 200

can omniman/rocket/mike answer what the full detailed mods are. considering it got deleted off ef-1

 

They said pr3 and mildly ported head.

 

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Where the hell are you guys coming up with all this crap?

 

I will need to get the okay from Omni to write up a summary for you guys.

This should be another interesting post.

 

Very surprising that people still have no clue about this, but to me it was huge so I followed it the whole way. Maybe I'm a loser...?

 

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no you are not a loser....

cuz i for one really don't believe it...NOT WITHOUT MAD HEADWORK AND MAD COMPRESSION....if it is 13.x plus then yes it is believable...and even without CTR pistons kinda unbelievable....but hey that's just my opinion

i will not believe it until i see it!

 

what's so hard to believe? We made 180whp with a stock b16a with JUN3's and jun valvetrain. All that was done was took out the old cams, springs, cam gears, and retainers and put the new ones in. After a couple hours on the dyno with the vafc, 180 was reached

 

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One of my friends had the same set up with a ITR plenum and throttle body. Everything else with the exception of the cams, springs, retainers, and cam gears (set at zero). He got 179hwp with no tuning whatsoever.

&lt;&lt;&lt;Another person wondering what is so hard to believe.

"Just because it hasn't been done doesn't mean it can't be done."

 

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no you are not a loser....

cuz i for one really don't believe it...NOT WITHOUT MAD HEADWORK AND MAD COMPRESSION....if it is 13.x plus then yes it is believable...and even without CTR pistons kinda unbelievable....but hey that's just my opinioni will not believe it until i see it!</TD></TR></TABLE>


I ran a 13.4 with my B16 in a CRX at a track over 2000 feet above sea level. Does that mean I am close to 200 whp?