the kit im talking about comes with tokico illuminas and tokico springs that drops (1.5 for integras.) anyways does anyone have this set up. im wondering how they ride. i read that tokico make decent stuff, not the best like koni yellows or Eibach but its competent. im trying to get the lowest drop w/out using a camber kit. 1.5 inches right? last thing, for those who have the set up can u guys post pics.

thank-you-thank-you

 

I think that if your looking for that kind of drop, you should probably go with what is tried and true.....Eibach Pro kits. Get some after market shocks after you have saved a little more money. Pro kits are designed to work with stock shocks, so you can ride on them for a while, as your waiting for more funds to arrive. I don't know anybody with that Tokico kit, although I am aware of what kit you are referring to.

 

>>I think that if your looking for that kind of drop, you should probably go with what is tried and true.....Eibach Pro kits. <<

I'm living proof that's good advice.

Years ago, I went with Pro-kits as my first suspension upgrade. I was very satisfied with the ride quality and handling, even on stock shocks. After I began autocrossing on race tires, the shocks eventually blew out, but it took 9 months of hard abuse. In the end, I think it was my carelessness over a speed bump that did it. Oddly enough, it was a rear shock that blew, even though the rear rates on Pro-kits are around 150 lbs.

After that, I switched to Tokico Illuminas (added sway bars somewhere in there too). I was very happy with the combo. Now I'm on GC's with the same set of shocks, and I have no plans to switch to new shocks in the near future. IMO, Illuminas are somewhat underrated simply because they cannot be re-valved. I guess I'll probably toss them and go with a set of Konis when they finally give up. But I don't know when that will be. I bought them slightly used, and I've beat the hell out of them for 2 years now so I certainly have no complaints about their durability.

That said, if I were given a 50/50 choice between Illuminas or Konis, I'd choose the Konis because of their support services and revalve-ability.

 

wait a sec, you can use the Pro-Kit with stock shocks? But I guess you can't do it the other way around.

What about KYB AGX's?

I know a few people who have the AGX and Pro-Kit, and love the set up. My concern would be how are they for auto-x.

 

>>wait a sec, you can use the Pro-Kit with stock shocks?<<

It's not the greatest setup, but they will work for awhile. Eventually the higher spring rates will blow them out though.

I think it's important that we compare these springs to other "sport" type spring sets. In that case they definitely top the class, IMO.

As for Prokits and autocross, it partly depends on the amount of traction. I think they're ok for street tire competition, but a bit too soft for race rubber. They're also a bit too soft in the rear relative to the fronts, but that's typical for just about any aftermarket spring set out there. When I went into Street Prepared and started competing on *wide* race tires, they were WAY too soft. I was hitting fenders all the time. Sway bars helped, but didn't completely solve the problem.

But, for someone starting out in autox with street tires, I think they're a good choice.

 

I have never used the Tokico springs, but I do have the Illuminas w C/O's and I love them. They are a nice ride, but when I start to apply a lot of force to the car they react VERY well.

 

Just for reference, that is the Tokico Advanced Handling Kit. http://www.tokicogasshocks.com/car/springkit.html.