So what do you guys think:

CNC Ported Head
Adj. Cam Gears
Stock Everything Else
JDM Closed Deck Stock Block


Your basic Cold Air Intake, Prospeed / AN-R Header, and Greddy Exhaust.

Current Dyno w/ Ported Head 188WHP PEAK
After Cam Gear Adjustments, I gained another 4WHP PEAK. Currently 192WHP.
http://www.geocities.com/lettersnpoems

You guys think the addition of Skunk 2 Stage II Camshafts and upgraded valvetrain can get me a 18WHP gain for a good 210WHP?




Modified by All-Motor H22A at 3:26 PM 12/8/2003

 

with good tuning.... yes.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2point6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with good tuning.... yes. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I hope so. I'm trying to get the most power w/o touching the block.

 

with smaller cams than the skunks, a portflow head, ecu, field vtec controller stock head gasket, I made 194hp and 158 tq.

 

Id have Tom at portflow check those skunk2 cams out,i hear they are not the specs that they advertise.Also check if your gonna need the 97 and up prelude sh lost motion assemblies.

 

Yea there was that rumor going around, and until now as far as i know it hasent been proven or let go. Someone clear this up before i make a big mistake.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BeeBeeOne &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yea there was that rumor going around, and until now as far as i know it hasent been proven or let go. Someone clear this up before i make a big mistake.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Word.

 

I'm guessing in the 200 whp range with that compression. Up it to 11.5:1 or more and you'll see 210 whp.

 

honestly if my car is anything to go by then id say you'll hit 210 easily. Maybe 215........but I would'nt be dissapointed if you don't. Just worry about the curve..............John

 

I really doubt you can hit 210whp with those cams and that compression ratio.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by satan_srv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I really doubt you can hit 210whp with those cams and that compression ratio.</TD></TR></TABLE>
U never know, b series guys have hit close to 200whp with good head work and beefy cams(skunk2 stg. 2s or junIIIs) on stock bottom end. Assuming a good flowing h/e combo i believe it could be pulled off.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2point6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with smaller cams than the skunks, a portflow head, ecu, field vtec controller stock head gasket, I made 194hp and 158 tq.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What dyno was this on?

 

Here is my setup:

- 1995 JDM H22A Block
- RS Machines Sleeves, Overbored to 88mm
- IBSpec Wiseco custom 12.5:1 88mm Forged Pistons
- New High Tension Piston Rings
- Probe ULTRALITE Rods, ARP Rod Bolts
- Brand New Bearings, Thrusts, Gaskets, Seals, etc.
- New OEM Honda Water Pump
- New OEM Honda Oil Pump
- Prodrive Billet Oil Pump Gear
- Micropolished and Custom Crankshaft work
- Hot Tanked, Precision Bored
- Professionally Balanced, Blueprinted, and Assembled
- Balance Shafts Removed
- Complete Bottom End Balanced with Clutchmasters 8lb Flywheel
- 1995 JDM H22A DOHC VTEC Head
- Features Complete Race Headwork by PORTFLOW
- IBSpec/Portflow Port & Polish Competition Race Package
- SKUNK2 0.5mm Oversized Black Nitrited Race Valves
- SKUNK2 Titanium Retainers
- SKUNK2 Race Valve Springs
- SKUNK2 Stage II Race Camshafts (Intake: 12.8mm, 267°; Exhaust: 11.8mm, 274°)
- SKUNK2 Silver Adjustable Camshaft Sprockets
- HONDATA Intake Manifold Heatshield Gasket
- OEM Honda Head Gasket
- AEBS Triple Cam Seal
- GReddy Upgraded Strong Reinforced Blue Timing Belt

Setup is for sale by the way... Current status is pending sale, but I just thought I'd share the setup for anyone looking to build a good all motor h22.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=687860

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chaudanova &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here is my setup:

- 1995 JDM H22A Block
- RS Machines Sleeves, Overbored to 88mm
- IBSpec Wiseco custom 12.5:1 88mm Forged Pistons
- New High Tension Piston Rings
- Probe ULTRALITE Rods, ARP Rod Bolts
- Brand New Bearings, Thrusts, Gaskets, Seals, etc.
- New OEM Honda Water Pump
- New OEM Honda Oil Pump
- Prodrive Billet Oil Pump Gear
- Micropolished and Custom Crankshaft work
- Hot Tanked, Precision Bored
- Professionally Balanced, Blueprinted, and Assembled
- Balance Shafts Removed
- Complete Bottom End Balanced with Clutchmasters 8lb Flywheel
- 1995 JDM H22A DOHC VTEC Head
- Features Complete Race Headwork by PORTFLOW
- IBSpec/Portflow Port & Polish Competition Race Package
- SKUNK2 0.5mm Oversized Black Nitrited Race Valves
- SKUNK2 Titanium Retainers
- SKUNK2 Race Valve Springs
- SKUNK2 Stage II Race Camshafts (Intake: 12.8mm, 267°; Exhaust: 11.8mm, 274°)
- SKUNK2 Silver Adjustable Camshaft Sprockets
- HONDATA Intake Manifold Heatshield Gasket
- OEM Honda Head Gasket
- AEBS Triple Cam Seal
- GReddy Upgraded Strong Reinforced Blue Timing Belt

Setup is for sale by the way... Current status is pending sale, but I just thought I'd share the setup for anyone looking to build a good all motor h22.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=687860

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It is stated in skunk2s website that its unsafe to run their skunk2 stg2 cams and over sized valves. Are you aware of that? Just wanted to make sure you knew.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BeeBeeOne &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It is stated in skunk2s website that its unsafe to run their skunk2 stg2 cams and over sized valves. Are you aware of that? Just wanted to make sure you knew. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, they say that with their B series stuff too, but there are Tons of people running stageII and stageIII cams with oversized valves making good power with no problems...

They say it for legalities and to save themselves in case people have problems from improperly set up motors.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by All-Motor H22A &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So what do you guys think:

Portflow Ported Head
Skunk2 Stage II Camshafts
Skunk2 Adj. Cam Gears
Portflow Ti Retainers
Portflow Valve Springs
Stock Valves

JDM Closed Deck Stock Block
Thinner Head Gasket to Raise Compression from 10.6:1 to 10.8:1

and your basic AEM Cold Air Intake, AN-R Header, and Greddy Exhaust.

Should be good for 210WHP?

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My friend is making 190WHP on a DynoJet w/ a similar setup likes yours, a ported head, stock block, but with stock cams. He's adding Skunk2 Stage IIs soon, but I doubt Skunk2 Stage II can make it 190WHP to 210WHP, unless the camshafts really take advantage of the ported head.


Modified by cpforyou at 11:04 AM 12/7/2003

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cpforyou &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

My friend is making 190WHP on a DynoJet w/ a similar setup likes yours, a ported head, stock block, but with stock cams. He's adding Skunk2 Stage IIs soon, but I doubt Skunk2 Stage II ca make it 190WHP to 210WHP, unless the camshafts really take advantage of the ported head.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your friend is gonna need a big time bump in compression to take advantage of the Stage II cams

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BolivianFuego &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
U never know, b series guys have hit close to 200whp with good head work and beefy cams(skunk2 stg. 2s or junIIIs) on stock bottom end. Assuming a good flowing h/e combo i believe it could be pulled off. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, but I think larger H22a combustion chamber demands a higher CR for a big cam. I just remember seeing a Stage 2 H22a dyno where the guy made no power like 178whp or something and all we could point to was the 10:1 CR with the high lift killing the dynamic compression

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by satan_srv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yeah, but I think larger H22a combustion chamber demands a higher CR for a big cam. I just remember seeing a Stage 2 H22a dyno where the guy made no power like 178whp or something and all we could point to was the 10:1 CR with the high lift killing the dynamic compression </TD></TR></TABLE>
Well i think to make up for the demand for more air for the combustion chambers he should accomdate that with a nice h/e combo along with a well ported head. He should make decent numbers with that, and later on he could probably upgrade to higher comp pistons too. I dont know about 210hp but def over the 190 mark.


Modified by BolivianFuego at 8:34 PM 12/7/2003

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BolivianFuego &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Well i think to make up for the demand for more air for the combustion chambers he should accomdate that with a nice h/e combo along with a well(sp.) ported head. He should make decent numbers with that, and later on he could probably upgrade to higher comp pistons too. I dont know about 210hp but def over the 190 mark. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm making a little over 190WHP on a DynoJet right now w/ everything stated above except the Skunk2 Stage II Camshafts and the Thin Head Gasket. I bought the parts and valvetrain, but haven't put it in yet.

 

so you're making 190whp with an intake, header, exhaust and ported head. Stock block and cams..

let's see your dyno graph

 

190 w/ I,H,E is possible on a completely stock motor with some fuel tuning. My old graph 190 SAE whp and 149 ft-lbs on a DynoJet:


Stock JDM H22
AEM Cold Air Intake
Imagine Engineering Header
Thermal Exhaust
APEXi V-AFC

Add Crower Stage 2 cams, 11.6:1 compression, and some more tuning:
204 SAE whp and 157 ft-lbs

 

DYNO ADDED TO TOP!

 

Nice dyno, def. shows the power an h22 really can make.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by satan_srv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so you're making 190whp with an intake, header, exhaust and ported head. Stock block and cams..

let's see your dyno graph</TD></TR></TABLE>btw I'm making 185 whp and 155wtq With a basic mod jdm h22 on dynojet....that was with a crushed dc header......My AN-R is on the way anytime now and I"m hoping to make close to 195 with just that, sooooooooooooooo......we'll see........John