i need some more information/recomendations from people with more experience but which should i go with a jackson racing supercharger or a JG Edelbrock turbo kit. This is for a 99 civic ex. My car has no torque what so ever as im sure most of u know thats why im think of the supercharger. give me some opinions please

 

Go buy Corky Bell's "Maximum Boost". Read it three or four times thoroughly. Then sit in this forum for about a month at least. Be sure to use the archives and search well.

THEN let us know if you have any questions.

 

dont go supercharged, thats for american cars. turboing is best result when it comes to imports. they get crazy...hehe.

anyways back to the subject, i've heard that the edelbrock kit has fuel management issues.

if i were you, save some money and get a drag kit....something along that line and HONDATA! hondata will make more power, torque will be nothing.

my drag kit w/ hondata should be making more them 200whp and just a little under 200 torque. right now i am on missing/fmu...krap. i got the hondata, but im waiting to tune the hondata b4 install.

 

go turboed i have a sohc thats turboed and im making 330 ftq

 

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Give us your setup.

 

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What he said

 

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I 3rd that. I call BS until I see some slips, dyno sheets, and a full setup list with pics.

 

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if the guy says he has 330 and let him say that dont take him down..........anyways i would go turbo for sure..... one thing is that a sc runs off the pulley of the crank.....which means u need tq to power the sc ...and sohc doesnt make much at all . i have a turbo sohc and im loving it .....go turbo

 

Turbo. Big ol FMIC. Put it together yourself. Save enough for a spare engine. Laugh as you blow by the JRSC cars.

 

hahahaha.... what he said ^

i pulled on a hatch w/ b16a2. my motor is sick too.

 

buy the Fmax kit for your car. i just installed one on a 99 civic Ex. vey nice kit, comes with a turbonics turbo, manifold, wastgate, dp, and has an additional injector control unit. personaly if your going to run under 12psi i would get a VAFC and some dsm 390 or 450cc injectors. and cap off the extra injector plugs on the kit and sell the MF2 additional fuel system.

get the Fmax kit. no modifing needed or fab work. direct bolt in.

about 3600 bucks but u can sell the MF2 system, and buy a vafc, and Dsm injectors and save some money.

 

Or you could piece your own together for 12-1500. I'm selling my new setup right now come buy it ^_^ t3 .60/.48...turbular ss autochrome manifold and tial 35 mm wastegate with dumptube

 

If you're gonna ask this question here on HT, you are 99% sure to find recommendations for "piece your own kit together plus Hondata" or FMAX/DRAG, etc. These are all good recommendations for a good turbo setup. A kit would probably be best if this is your first time.

So to say that HT is not Biased towards turbo would be false. In all fairness, turbo set ups always have the greatest potential for more power, hp and torque. but that doesn't mean superchargers don't have anything going for them. Instant torque, no need for turbotimer (you should still let your car cool down a bit after a hard run, regardless of turbo/na/sc).

A jrsc setup is really for someone who wants a decent amount of hp and torque gains but who really doesn't want to bother with tuning a turbo setup, etc.

My recommendation is to find two examples of each application , turbo vs. supercharger, take a test drive. Talk to the owners and you'll find out what suits you. I mean, let's face it, 80% of import enthusiasts don't really drive that fast to be in need of 300 hp civics.

Depends on what you are trying to build. YOur version of the "ultimate street civic"? turbo is the way to go. "just a little more power" jrsc will suit you fine. and to be fair to the sohc jrsc, it came out about 10 years ago or so. to compare it to some of today's best honda performance options is unfair. The jrsc is a relic of a bygone era of limited choices for honda enthusiasts. It was a worthy product in its time vs. its contemporaries imo.

 

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I think it's good advice. I've been wanting to turbo a car for awhile and I've waited for 4 years until I had all the tools to do it. Something I've observed about people who enjoy their cars - they fall into one of two categories:

Category #1: Those who don't need to look at the price tag. These are guys who should buy a kit and take it to their local wrenchhead with the intercooler stuffed with dead presidents.

Category #2: Those who know enough to piece together their own kit, and more importantly, fix things when (not if) they break down, blow up, or don't work, and have the tools and location to work on their cars. Oh, AND have another car/truck.

If you don't know enough to piece together your own kit, then you had better be Mr. Dead Presidents.. because maybe you might get lucky, but if cost is a problem, then you have to have another ride and be able to fix it when it breaks or needs a little extra to turn over. It's not that the FI route is unreliable in it's nature; it's that to get to the point where you have a finished product is going to take some time or money.

All goes back to quick, cheap, reliable. Pick two.

 

My friends homemade turbo for his d16 breaks off our other friend with a JRSC and every imaginable bolt on.

The homemade kit is a T25, non intercooled with water injection.
Breaks him off everytime!

 

turbo 4cyl: cheaper, more power, more torque

SC 4cyl: $$$, less power, less torque

 

Go with the turbo, I have a jackson on my 94 ex with the boost upgrade and vafc to tune it. It put down 157hp and 124 ft lbs of torque, needless to say I am not too happy with it due to the money I've sunk into to it. When I get taxes back next year I'm going to sell it go turbo.

 

for my next project..since my car is my daily driver and i need to it last another year..i'm gonna just run a Greddy kit @ 8psi on my D16y8..with the hack

 

Go with a custom turbo kit. It's cheap and it'll yield great results.

 

98 coupe
stock sleeves and stock head
crower rods, srp pistons all sharp edges sanded
hondata 3b
msd digital 6
garret t04e 57 trim .63 ar 25psi
550 cc injectors
pwr front mount
jun fly wheel act xtream plate 22" slicks
stock axles and diff.
1.7 60 ft.
12.07@117

 

i dont have a scanner so cant post my time slips and dyno sheets yet

 

the only plus about superchargers is that you get good gas mileage and a decent power boost.

go chek out that one nascar guy's super charged crx. It runs 12's on slicks at 480 hp. If you ask me that quarter mile time is crap. He has 11:1 compression too. If you had that same hp with a turbo i think you'd be definately in the 10's with good driving.
if you want the best bang for your buck, turbo is the way to go.

I think the only reasons americans think supercharging is good is because professional drag racers use them. The only difference is that they go 0-300mph in 3 seconds. And when your going that fast blowers are actually better because the air you get from going that fast is more than the exhaust air your engine produces to spin a turbo. And in this case it would only benefit at 100+ speeds

 

oh, his supercharger is making 29 lbs of boost too, maybe it was 27 i can't remember. but high 20's

 

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stock sleeves and stock head
crower rods, srp pistons all sharp edges sanded
hondata 3b
msd digital 6
garret t04e 57 trim .63 ar 25psi
550 cc injectors
pwr front mount
jun fly wheel act xtream plate 22" slicks
stock axles and diff.
1.7 60 ft.
12.07@117
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25 psi on 550cc injectors?
And what's your HP figure?