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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 01:15 PM
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Thinking of swapping into a eg...
How much more would it be for a k20 and how much more power can i expect to make ?
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 02:10 PM
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k20a swaps seem to be goin for 6k plus 1k for the motor mount kit (this is the last price i saw on the mounts)

b18c5's can be as low as 4k but range from 4-5k depending on year ect.

k20's seem to be layin down 180hp 130tq stock and 200whp seems to be pretty easy with nice bolt ons

b18c5s usually make 170hp 120tq stockish. k20s are lighter too but its not an easy bolt in like the b series
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 04:07 PM
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it has probably been done everywhere now but i have yet to see a k20 in a eg or in anything besides what it belongs in, i would be different and do a k20
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 05:32 PM
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If the money's right , the K is tight.
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 05:34 PM
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if your willing to spend 6k on a k20
then you better off spenging that on a gsr motor and builing it and u will have way more power than a stock k20
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 05:46 PM
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check this out...........
i say k20 for 7k total you can get a k20a2 swap in the eg plus a toda engine kit that will put you at about 225whp.... and a lot newer motor...

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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 07:48 PM
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in our (Area 51) K20 type R EK we put down 198 whp stock engine.. and ran a 13.2 @ pomona raceway on street tires, full interior, and bass booming sound system..

K20
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 10:44 PM
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damn thats dope(k20 in eg) but with 7grand i think i can get a civic to run low 11's.. i mean by starting off with a stock hatch dx... for 10grand my friend got a dx shell and a prelude motor with built head on nitrous hitting low 11s
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 11:33 PM
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7 gs can get you 11's on slicks all motor...
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 11:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eghead &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn thats dope(k20 in eg) but with 7grand i think i can get a civic to run low 11's.. i mean by starting off with a stock hatch dx... for 10grand my friend got a dx shell and a prelude motor with built head on nitrous hitting low 11s</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is just scratching the surface with this motor ..especially since IB getting involved in the K big time .

any K20-EG or Ek swap Q's hit me up on Aim k2oeg
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 12:21 AM
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A streetable B just cant make the same power as a streetable K
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 04:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AussieK24 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A streetable B just cant make the same power as a streetable K </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats why its getting scary, these new K motors are make b series and h series motors old school. It would be a good investment motor because this is the future. And modding it is so easy. i/h/e and a reflash is 200whp.
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 07:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BolivianFuego &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Thats why its getting scary, these new K motors are make b series and h series motors old school. It would be a good investment motor because this is the future. </TD></TR></TABLE>

my point was that 7k gets you the motor and the swap kit not including shipping and the labor to get it to work right (wiring ect). then in addition if your talking about the toda kit as well it will add up quick. for the money you spend on the k20 you can get better results with the b series so it really depends on what your power goals are. if all you want is a streetable 200hp setup then b series is alot easier. if you goals exceed that of what a b series is capable of than go for the k series. Untill k series is cheaper/more avalible your gonna be spending extra money just to say you have something different.
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 07:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JCushing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

my point was that 7k gets you the motor and the swap kit not including shipping and the labor to get it to work right (wiring ect). then in addition if your talking about the toda kit as well it will add up quick. for the money you spend on the k20 you can get better results with the b series so it really depends on what your power goals are. if all you want is a streetable 200hp setup then b series is alot easier. if you goals exceed that of what a b series is capable of than go for the k series. Untill k series is cheaper/more avalible your gonna be spending extra money just to say you have something different.</TD></TR></TABLE>
See in that sense if you get a b series and your goal is 200whp daily driven, that right there is the b series maxed out. When you could pay about the same with just i/h/e on a k series motor and do the same. What im saying theres more room for imporvement and hp gains in the k series and it would still remain driveable. As in the b series you really start maxing out the motor if you wanna hit over 210 whp. Get me when i say the future?
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 12:58 PM
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i give it a few years and everybody will start swiching to k series instead of b
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 01:01 PM
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give me 29 days and counting...
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 01:05 PM
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I agree once more are wrecked and more jdm motors start coming over it will become fairly common.
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 01:06 PM
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It's as simple as the K having a better head and more cubic inches to start off with.
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 01:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JCushing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

my point was that 7k gets you the motor and the swap kit not including shipping and the labor to get it to work right (wiring ect). then in addition if your talking about the toda kit as well it will add up quick. for the money you spend on the k20 you can get better results with the b series so it really depends on what your power goals are. if all you want is a streetable 200hp setup then b series is alot easier. if you goals exceed that of what a b series is capable of than go for the k series. Untill k series is cheaper/more avalible your gonna be spending extra money just to say you have something different.</TD></TR></TABLE>
k20a2 = 2500
mounts, harness, header=1500
toda engine kit = 2000
intake = 150
install = 800-1000
total 7000 dollars... 225whp and 158lbs/ft street driven, pump gas......
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 01:18 PM
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i totally agree with all of you cept a coulple things

1 200 whp is not maxed out for a b series. there are people with stock block R motors making that

2 hmotorsonline sells the k20a swap for 6 thousand. if you can find a k20a swap for 2500 i think thats great but i dont think that just anyone can go out and get it for that price. for that price its less than an R swap so duh it makes sense to buy it.
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 01:31 PM
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k20a2 ..... type-s motor...
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 02:57 PM
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theah your right, the hmotors is a type r.... my bad. i still think that 2500 for a k20 swap is really cheap. gsr swaps are still more than that
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 03:01 PM
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can you really get a k20a2 for $2500? (yes, k20a2 is the USDM type s, the a1 is the jdm type r at 220 hp) If so where, I want to buy one now for my future dc2 swap.

Thx for the info.
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 04:23 PM
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thats wat im talking about. But comparing the k motor to a b series is just not the same. K series motors have alot more potential i see it(my opinion) then b series motors because just look at how they react to little mods. As stated before with i/h/e they make 190ish-200 whp. But in a B series motor your lucky if you break 180whp wiht just these mods. What im saying is this is the future and they are gonna storm the market and make b series and h series motors a thing of the past. I give it a year before someone cracks the 270-280 whp with these motors.
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 04:25 PM
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where can you get a k20 for 2500 ?
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