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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 12:55 PM
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I'm trying to get clear answers to the following questions about the lovefab sidewinder (which, for reference, will be put to use with a sc61 turbo, and mounted in a 5th gen prelude on the H22).

- are there any hotspot problems? due to the fact that the primaries are higher than most mani's i am also concerned (yet i admit i know nothing on this subject) about the heat cooking the paint on the hood. can someone confirm or cast this fear aside? also, has anyone thought about ceramic coating it?

- using a slim radiator (fluidyne) and slim fan, will the fan need to be mounted on the front of the radiator or can it stay on the back?

- will the battery have to be placed elsewhere?

thanks for your help.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 01:08 PM
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battery relocation is a must, the hood will be fine, and ceramic coating will only help things. A pusher fan is not NECESSARY, but will help with room in the engine bay. any thing else? PM me if you need to...
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 01:20 PM
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i manifold dont really get that hot to do any thing like that , but i am running rich to get the egt's down ,

here pic of what i did to my battery on my accord 94-97




and i put the fans on the other side radiator, but i do have a 3inch down pipe with not a lot of space
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and heres just lots more pics about fitment







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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 01:36 PM
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Thanx Derron...
Welp, that bout does it
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 02:01 PM
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dang..what an awful place to relocate the battery too..but oh well..nice setup anyways
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 11:41 PM
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thanks for your help guys. that about covers everything . I think ill just relocate the battery to the trunk.

DLB1994, that sidewinder looks different than the others i have seen (see pic below). is that simply what the H series one looks like or is it an earlier model>?

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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 06:42 AM
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there's two models of the sidewinder, i put my battery there to keep all the weight over the front tires, and keep all the weight out the back of the car

its in the same place as allmost all drag hondas
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 06:44 AM
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Double post
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 08:24 AM
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Yea whats wrong with that spot for the battery? want the weight off the drive wheels or what?
I guarentee you wouldnt fell the battery let alone a small 10 pound or less one.
And it is cleaner that in the back.
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 09:12 AM
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Wow that's an interesting spot to the put the battery. What if someone steals it? You're luckily you don't live in Northern VA ....

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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 09:43 AM
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what about the rain? not afraid of it getting wet and causing a short?
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 02:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DLB1994 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there's two models of the sidewinder, i put my battery there to keep all the weight over the front tires, and keep all the weight out the back of the car

its in the same place as allmost all drag hondas</TD></TR></TABLE>

so what are the differences (pros and cons) between these two versions?
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 07:22 AM
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DLB1994 Do you have any good pics of the rest of the ic piping.. to and back to tb.... also doesnt look like you run a filter??? or just not pictured either way not much room for one....

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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 05:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BG Boost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow that's an interesting spot to the put the battery. What if someone steals it? You're luckily you don't live in Northern VA ....

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its garaged kelp and i drive it far from every day , lately maybe once a week at most
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 05:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SEFIxCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what about the rain? not afraid of it getting wet and causing a short?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i dont think so but i like never drive it in the rain anyhow
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 10:04 PM
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has anyone had any boost spike problems with the welded version?
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 11:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yellowmonkeyboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">has anyone had any boost spike problems with the welded version?</TD></TR></TABLE>

naw no boost spike at all
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 05:25 AM
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and 35mm WG
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 11:50 PM
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doesn't the manifold spool a lil slower then other convential types next to the block? the farthur away the turbine is away from the combustion chamber, the lower the temperature is of the expanding gases. so idealy while retaining AC and not having to shave the block, spool up time should be affected even if just a little bit? just curious
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 06:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by igotyofire &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">doesn't the manifold spool a lil slower then other convential types next to the block? the farthur away the turbine is away from the combustion chamber, the lower the temperature is of the expanding gases. so idealy while retaining AC and not having to shave the block, spool up time should be affected even if just a little bit? just curious</TD></TR></TABLE>

no..it spools faster actually..
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 07:24 AM
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how?
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 08:08 AM
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the only thing i can think of is the straighter runners contribute to less turbulence than the SST. The SSTs runners are in a continuous curve, where the H22/H23 Sidewinders have around a foot of STRAIGHT pipe to lower turbulence. Then, when it hits the collector, it smooths it out even more.
There are no dynos of anything, its simply what I observed personally. If youre thinking its a sales pitch, its not, because for the same $, I do roughly twice the work on a SideWinder, and Id much rather make an SST. Im just telling you all what I have observed personally.
SST, 12 psi on t4/60-1 43-4500rpm.
SideWinder, 12 psi same t4/60-1, 3500 rpm.
Changed only the manifold and piping, both with open downpipes.
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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 04:44 PM
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can you use an air filter with the sidewinder?
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 03:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dwchkypmp20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">can you use an air filter with the sidewinder?</TD></TR></TABLE>Wondering the same thing, my car is far from daily driven (beaters own) however I still like the piece of mind that something from the road isnt going to wreck a perfectly good turbo.
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 04:10 AM
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you will have to get a tight-radius bend to go down and into the wheel-well area. Shouldnt be too big of a problem if you have a 3" inlet turbo. Anything larger, and it could be tricky.

Down-under!
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