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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 10:05 AM
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Alright heres the deal. I drive a 00 celica GTS 6 speed. Its pretty fast i suppose, but it has no potential. i want a high 13 second low 14 second car. I also want one that doesnt look like a piece of ****. So what i want to do is take about 8000$ and build a fast as hell, clean looking car. What is my best route to do this? I know enough about engines to do a swap, but i really dont have the time to do it. so i could get a 96-00 civic ex and supercharge it maybe? I could just buy an already modified car, but if you ask me thats pretty rice. What do you guys think i should do? Im new here, thanks for the advice.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 10:06 AM
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engine swap+turbo=fast car
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 10:10 AM
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Built D series plus boost=high 12s easy. I hit a 13.8 in a DX hatchy (97) at 10psi on my greddy kit.

EDIT: If you really want a cheap fast car try this
EG Hatch=2-3k
D16z6 swap=500
Used Greddy kit with FMIC=1500
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 10:11 AM
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just get a 96-00 civic like you said, mod the suspension, swap the motor and turbo it like ^he said.

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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 10:13 AM
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so a d16y8 with greddy turbo..ill have to get low compression pistons and make my internals safe for higher boost..what would daily driving boost be 8psi? i have research to do on prices obviously. 96 hatch with some rota slips and a built motor, is that within 8k$ budget?
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 10:16 AM
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just get coupe or hatch, b18b...and turbo kit...u can do all of that for 8k..
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 10:39 AM
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Dude you need to do some reasearch on your car if you think it has no potential your wrong that is a very very stout motor with a lot of bottled up HP i have seen them run 13's with realativly little work. If all you want is a 13sec car then you have it right at you foot do a little more reasurch and you will see what i am talking about.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 10:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Stay Tuned &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so a d16y8 with greddy turbo..ill have to get low compression pistons and make my internals safe for higher boost..what would daily driving boost be 8psi? i have research to do on prices obviously. 96 hatch with some rota slips and a built motor, is that within 8k$ budget?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Low CR + boost = shitty performace off of boost. Your motor is fine for boost as it is and your clutch will give up LONG before your internals will.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 10:43 AM
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get a turbo
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 10:48 AM
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EG = 3000
B16 = 2500
ZEX 55 Shot = 500
13's in the 1320 = Priceless
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 10:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">EG = 3000
B16 = 2500
ZEX 55 Shot = 500
13's in the 1320 = Priceless</TD></TR></TABLE>

EK=6000
Greddy Kit=2000
13s in the 1320 while that B16 is out of N20 and I smoke his ***=priceless
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 10:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gdrum &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just get coupe or hatch, b18b...and turbo kit...u can do all of that for 8k..</TD></TR></TABLE>

get an EG hatch to start with-an EK is slightly heavier and will eat up more of your budget just buying the car itself.
say around $3kish.if you can luck out and find one with a blown motor or high mileage,maybe even $1000-$1500
B18B1 swap-can find these around here complete for about:
$1500ish
turbo setup.
$$varies.my friend just pieced together a kit of top notch stuff for under $2k(but it required welding all the pipes,and a little ingenuity.factor in extra money if you can't do that stuff yourself),up to a little over $3k for complete kits.
of course,there are lots of little extras that add up,like servicable parts for the motor(timing belt,water pump,plugs,cap,etc.)you need to replace,clutch/flywheel to handle tohe power and you'd definately want to at least lower the car and get some better wheels/tires.so keep that in mind....
basically,you have many different ways to spend that moeny to arrive at the same place.what i listed above is probably the easiest.also keep in mind that the price of the car,swap and turbo kit will vary greatly depending on how hard you look,how much of the work you're willing to do yourself,etc.
you could build this car for way less than $8k if you find a good cheap car,piece together the kit,do some fab work yourself,and seek out good deals on parts.if you're paying somebody else to do it all,and trusting them to purchase all the parts it can easily exceed the budget.
of course,for $8k you could also buy and build a pretty bad-*** 5.0L Fox-body Mustang
chris
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 11:34 AM
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Get a CRX if you want low-buck high potential, then just put a turbo'd d16z6 in there and run low 13's.

I knew a guy locally who ran a 13.7 in his crx with a d16a6 (non-vtec i believe) at 10 psi, with a stock slipping clutch and shitty tires.

So just imagine what a good turbo setup in a gutted crx could do for about $4000
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 11:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ricey McRicerton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

EK=6000
Greddy Kit=2000
13s in the 1320 while that B16 is out of N20 and I smoke his ***=priceless </TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL you wish
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 11:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Briman2021 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get a CRX if you want low-buck high potential, then just put a turbo'd d16z6 in there and run low 13's.

I knew a guy locally who ran a 13.7 in his crx with a d16a6 (non-vtec i believe) at 10 psi, with a stock slipping clutch and shitty tires.

So just imagine what a good turbo setup in a gutted crx could do for about $4000</TD></TR></TABLE>
definately a good idea,but i just prefer the EG chassis.around here at least,high mileage/blown up EGs go for about as much as an equal condition EF.a CX EG doesn't weigh much more than the EFs do.also,factor in the price of a mount kit and custom linkage if doing a B-swap into an EF.i'd take a turbo B18 over a turbo D-series motor any day.in equal chassis' and at the same psi,a turbo B18 will have a definate advantage over a turbo D1?.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 11:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blackhatchy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">engine swap+turbo=fast car </TD></TR></TABLE>


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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 08:34 PM
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1988 CRX HF + b18b + t3/4 turbo...that should do and for well under 8G's!
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 09:00 PM
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Default Re: Opinions, flames, what do you got? (Ricey McRicerton)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ricey McRicerton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you really want a cheap fast car try this
EG Hatch=2-3k
D16z6 swap=500
Used Greddy kit with FMIC=1500</TD></TR></TABLE>

i agree.
8000-2000 for car
6000-500 for d16z6
5500-1500 for turbo
4000-2000 for suspension / brakes
2000 left to sink into internals or whatever else
^that's what i would do if you just want to go fast.
i am so good at math
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 02:33 PM
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i agree with 99blackcivicSi. i think that car has a really decent motor in... and toyota's vvti is supposed to be much more efficient than vtec. the trend seems to be that toyota's have much beefier motors, and can handle much more pressure. i'd do some research on your own car.
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 02:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Stay Tuned &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Alright heres the deal. I drive a 00 celica GTS 6 speed. Its pretty fast i suppose, but it has no potential. i want a high 13 second low 14 second car. . so i could get a 96-00 civic ex and supercharge it maybe? I could just buy an already modified car, but if you ask me thats pretty rice. What do you guys think i should do? Im new here, thanks for the advice.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Just turbo your GTS!! =your 13 sec car
supercharged EX civic will never run 13s,..with that civic you have to turbo or swap the motor for a DOHC vtec motor!!
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 02:57 PM
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Mid-Late 90's Z28 or SS. Done.

Or you could take a 93 Z28 bolt-ons, bottle, Tq converter and radials. Hmm 12's sound nice for $8000.
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 04:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr Milano &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Mid-Late 90's Z28 or SS. Done.

Or you could take a 93 Z28 bolt-ons, bottle, Tq converter and radials. Hmm 12's sound nice for $8000.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Too bad it will be like 10 grand after you take the jump in insurance, of 2 grand more per year. Speaking demographically to the 16-24 year old male insurance (majority is 2+ tickets)

haha

Personally id take a 92 Coupe EG (EJ1??) for 2 grand. B16 + pistons, p&p, sleeves = 2,7500. Quaife or ITR LSD + Custom T3/T4 setup (or T60 if pure track) + Hondata = 3000. All you need is a good shock setup and radials
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 04:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

LOL you wish </TD></TR></TABLE>

wut u talkin bout? boosted D will kill a B16 with N20
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 04:56 PM
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put a y5 in that biatch and boost it. lol. thats what i plan on doing. roller rockers baby!!!!
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