H22 rebuild OR Buy a nEw h22
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H22 rebuild OR Buy a nEw h22
well i just purchased a 93 prelude vtec from my cousin and it has a really high miles (180k) on the engine and my cousin pretty much race'd the **** out of it. what should i do..?....rebuild the engine and buy and new h22 tranny w/ LSD? buy a new h22 engine & tranny w/ LSD? what would be better? i just want the car to run strong and be quick enough to beat my homeboy's '91 turbo supra and my other homeboy's '03 rsx type S that is running about 240 flywheel. good looking out guys.
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Re: H22 rebuild OR Buy a nEw h22 (wUtZrEaLLiEgOoD)
How does a 240+whp NA H22 sound for you? And did i mention its brand new? Check it out:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=687860
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=687860
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Re: H22 rebuild OR Buy a nEw h22 (wUtZrEaLLiEgOoD)
If you want to run 14s buy another H22. If you want to go faster rebuild the bottom end with type S pistons and figure out how to make the motor breath properly.
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Rebuild it. New seals, rings, type-s pistons and rods, lightened flywheel, bearings, Alaniz or Portflo headwork, .015 milled head, Crower or Skunk2 valvetrain including stage II cams from either. Quaife LSD, SMSP header, 2.5" headerback exhaust all will turn nice a really sweet times. More bang for your buck definately and if you're into it more BIG high perfomance brandnames to throw around with power enough to back it up. Or stick with what you got and learn how to drive at the track...whatever. It's your money.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PirateMcFred »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Rebuild it. New seals, rings, type-s pistons and rods, lightened flywheel, bearings, Alaniz or Portflo headwork, .015 milled head, Crower or Skunk2 valvetrain including stage II cams from either. Quaife LSD, SMSP header, 2.5" headerback exhaust all will turn nice a really sweet times. More bang for your buck definately and if you're into it more BIG high perfomance brandnames to throw around with power enough to back it up. Or stick with what you got and learn how to drive at the track...whatever. It's your money.
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Just pick up my setup. Its brand new, and it has all those fancy names, plus more.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=687860
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Just pick up my setup. Its brand new, and it has all those fancy names, plus more.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=687860
Killer Setup
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Re: H22 rebuild OR Buy a nEw h22 (wUtZrEaLLiEgOoD)
My advice to you is stop what you're doing right now.
Look at yourself. Your entire purpose in life with that car right now is to beat those two cars. Has that RSX been dyno'd? How do you know it's at "240 flywheel?" Magazine numbers? Did he tell you? What's been done to your "homies" Supra turbo? You realize that you could spend your $3000-$5000 on a new motor, or simply BUILDING this one and all he has to do us spend $1000 and he'll whoop your *** again.
What do these cars run in the 1/4 mile? Or do they run road course or parking lots? You need to think about what this car will be BUILT for.
Take a second and think again about what you want to do. Take another few minutes and read this:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=683477
It should be stickied to the top or linked, cause people like YOU need it.
Look at yourself. Your entire purpose in life with that car right now is to beat those two cars. Has that RSX been dyno'd? How do you know it's at "240 flywheel?" Magazine numbers? Did he tell you? What's been done to your "homies" Supra turbo? You realize that you could spend your $3000-$5000 on a new motor, or simply BUILDING this one and all he has to do us spend $1000 and he'll whoop your *** again.
What do these cars run in the 1/4 mile? Or do they run road course or parking lots? You need to think about what this car will be BUILT for.
Take a second and think again about what you want to do. Take another few minutes and read this:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=683477
It should be stickied to the top or linked, cause people like YOU need it.
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Re: H22 rebuild OR Buy a nEw h22 (Lone Luder)
Yup, I agree with everything LoneLuder said ^. Especially the "You realize that you could spend your $3000-$5000 on a new motor, or simply BUILDING this one and all he has to do us spend $1000 and he'll whoop your *** again."
You had better really think about what you want and ask yourself are you prepared for the cost and loss in reliability.
Modified by kb58 at 9:14 PM 11/26/2003
You had better really think about what you want and ask yourself are you prepared for the cost and loss in reliability.
Modified by kb58 at 9:14 PM 11/26/2003
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Re: H22 rebuild OR Buy a nEw h22 (Lone Luder)
i dont just want to beat those two cars, there are many cars i want the RSX has been dyno'd. he dyno'd it in rosemead at this motorsport and i was with him. as for tto run but those two are my main focus for now. yes, as for the supra. man that thing is quick for a heavy car. i never seen under his hood but its turbo'd w/ BOV and intercooler. HKS exhaust and its lowered. thats all i know. as for the money, thats why im asking you guys what should i do w/ the engine. rebuild it (cheap) or just buy a new one (exspensive) but i want what's worth my money. they do 1/4 mile runs @ irwindale speedway. i dont know what they run but my cousin told me before he sold me the car that his car runs low 14's w/ bolt-ons. thanks for the advice tho! and by the way.NONE OF EM NEVER WHOOPED MY ***....WE NEVER RACED.
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Change your damn screen name.... y0
1st: You scare me.
2nd: I say save up your money until this motor blows.
No one here can tell you what setup will make you happy, or what you should do to fit your lifestyle.
What do you want us to do, tell you exactly what to buy, and who to build it and then pat you on the back for building a setup that WE put together?
Do some research on your own. Find something that appeals to YOU.
I can tell you that rebuilding the H22 to a point that it should hold up to abuse will end up costing about the same as buying a used JDM one.
First of all, labor will be a grand. Then I'd get new pistons, Type S or stock, whatever floats your boat depending on if you want to boost/spray or just run N/A. You can keep the ones that are in there now, but at 180,000 miles of abuse, those ring landings are like pretzels. Next you have to have the head evened and cleaned. I'd add new springs and retainers, and new valves just because those have been run ragged. Then gaskets, seals, bearings, replacing everything else like the waterpump, timing stuff, oil pump etc all adds up. I could go on for days.
THAT is rebuilding a stock motor with RELIABILITY in mind.
ALso keep in mind what kind of gas you have access to, what emission laws do you have, if any? What noise laws do you have?
2nd: I say save up your money until this motor blows.
No one here can tell you what setup will make you happy, or what you should do to fit your lifestyle.
What do you want us to do, tell you exactly what to buy, and who to build it and then pat you on the back for building a setup that WE put together?
Do some research on your own. Find something that appeals to YOU.
I can tell you that rebuilding the H22 to a point that it should hold up to abuse will end up costing about the same as buying a used JDM one.
First of all, labor will be a grand. Then I'd get new pistons, Type S or stock, whatever floats your boat depending on if you want to boost/spray or just run N/A. You can keep the ones that are in there now, but at 180,000 miles of abuse, those ring landings are like pretzels. Next you have to have the head evened and cleaned. I'd add new springs and retainers, and new valves just because those have been run ragged. Then gaskets, seals, bearings, replacing everything else like the waterpump, timing stuff, oil pump etc all adds up. I could go on for days.
THAT is rebuilding a stock motor with RELIABILITY in mind.
ALso keep in mind what kind of gas you have access to, what emission laws do you have, if any? What noise laws do you have?
Re: H22 rebuild OR Buy a nEw h22 (chaudanova)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chaudanova »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How does a 240+whp NA H22 sound for you? And did i mention its brand new? Check it out:
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240whp sounds GREAT.....but you never mentioned a price. It's all relative my friend.
Oh...and to the Creator of this thread...a Prelude is not for you. If you are concerned with drag racing only...I would suggest a RWD...large displacement car..... all of which the Prelude is not.
Death to drag racing!! DIE DIE DIE!!!
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240whp sounds GREAT.....but you never mentioned a price. It's all relative my friend.
Oh...and to the Creator of this thread...a Prelude is not for you. If you are concerned with drag racing only...I would suggest a RWD...large displacement car..... all of which the Prelude is not.
Death to drag racing!! DIE DIE DIE!!!
****** ghey azz Fast and the Furious shyt!!! Sorry...I am done now. lol
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All I can say is uhh... yeah good luck.
You'd have to buy that engine chaudanova is selling to get near what you want to ...
keep in mind with that compression (12.5:1) your not going to be running on regular pump gas ... so theres octane booster for every fill ..
and then theres tuning tuning tuning.
but again, if your buddy puts a bit of cash into his supra ... your back to losing ....
so yeah.. g'luck.
You'd have to buy that engine chaudanova is selling to get near what you want to ...
keep in mind with that compression (12.5:1) your not going to be running on regular pump gas ... so theres octane booster for every fill ..
and then theres tuning tuning tuning.
but again, if your buddy puts a bit of cash into his supra ... your back to losing ....
so yeah.. g'luck.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yohan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All I can say is uhh... yeah good luck.
You'd have to buy that engine chaudanova is selling to get near what you want to ...
keep in mind with that compression (12.5:1) your not going to be running on regular pump gas ... so theres octane booster for every fill ..
and then theres tuning tuning tuning.
but again, if your buddy puts a bit of cash into his supra ... your back to losing ....
so yeah.. g'luck.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Actually, you can get away with pump gas if you get it tuned properly... Hondata + good tuning, and you'll be good. Its real borderline though, so yes, I would suggest some octane booster every other fill...Toluene works great too. Depends on the area you live in, as some places have higher octane "pump gas".
You'd have to buy that engine chaudanova is selling to get near what you want to ...
keep in mind with that compression (12.5:1) your not going to be running on regular pump gas ... so theres octane booster for every fill ..
and then theres tuning tuning tuning.
but again, if your buddy puts a bit of cash into his supra ... your back to losing ....
so yeah.. g'luck.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Actually, you can get away with pump gas if you get it tuned properly... Hondata + good tuning, and you'll be good. Its real borderline though, so yes, I would suggest some octane booster every other fill...Toluene works great too. Depends on the area you live in, as some places have higher octane "pump gas".
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yep your right! but another reason why i feel it is capable of keeping up w/ the supra is because my cousin smoke'd his friends turbocharged eclipse and i figured, if he can smoke that eclipse i might have a good chance beating a couple of my friends cars! well im taking my car to the track this weekend to see what it runs! thanks for all of the advice/suggestions guys!
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Um, instead of building a N/A monster, maybe you should build a turbo monster? lower compression pistons, decent turbo setup... it will be quick... could blow too...
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Re: Change your damn screen name.... y0 (Lone Luder)
Lone Luder, I think you are the personification of the phrase "love-hate relationship." Unfortunately I think that's where we all end up eventually when it comes to modifying cars... 
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Re: Change your damn screen name.... y0 (kb58)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kb58 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lone Luder, I think you are the personification of the phrase "love-hate relationship." Unfortunately I think that's where we all end up eventually when it comes to modifying cars... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, I think any one that has been modding cars for a while, and has torn up some stuff, has the same "Love/Hate" views that Lone Luder has! ... Don't try to do to much at once dude... Map a plan out and take your time doing it... It's not something that's going to happen over night. (Unless your pockets are deep!)
</TD></TR></TABLE>Yeah, I think any one that has been modding cars for a while, and has torn up some stuff, has the same "Love/Hate" views that Lone Luder has! ... Don't try to do to much at once dude... Map a plan out and take your time doing it... It's not something that's going to happen over night. (Unless your pockets are deep!)
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