I was sitting at a light this morning on my way to work, and my car decided that it was going to start moving forward on its own. I still had the clutch depressed though.

I was unable to get it into gear after that either.

I figured that it just had air in the line so I bled the clutch. I did notice that while I had the bleed valve on the slave cylinder opened, the clutch resevoir was slowly emptying. I was under the impression that the resevoir wouldn't empty unless you were pumping the clutch. Is this true?

Any ideas on what to replace first. I know that Acura are going to be dicks about this and not honor the warranty.

Kenton

EDIT: Also, when I tried to bleed the clutch and pushed the pedal down, it didn't come back up. It just stayed on the floor.


Modified by 2.2 at 9:57 AM 11/24/2003

 

fluid will come out.
it stays on the floor because there is no hydraulic pressure.

if you find something leaking replace that part.

 

Thats what I thought, I just needed to make sure.

There are no leaks. My resevoir was full.

Kenton

 

When I bleed my clutch I loop some string around the pedal to pull it up from the floor.

If it's not leaking OUT, and bleeding doesn't fix the problem, then I'd say you need a new master cylinder. It leaks internally, back to the reservoir. That's exactly the same as a bad brake master, where your pedal slowly sinks to the floor while you're sitting at a red light.

 

Well, I just had a friend come over and push the clutch while I watched to fork and slave to see how much they moved. It was moving about and inch or so.

I am thinking it is the pressure plate that is screwed up. I guess I will just get like a replacement Exedy or something like that.

I hope it isn't too hard to replace.

Kenton

 

Try this: Have him press in the clutch pedal & hold it down for like 2 or 3 minutes. Watch for the fork to slowly return to it's starting position. THAT would be a bad clutch master. You may have to try this several times, pumping the pedal between tries. It usually doesn't leak down every time.

Otherwise, changing the pressure plate means taking out the transmission. Geez - that's way harder than replacing the MC... Since you have to do all that work, get a whole clutch kit - not just the pressure plate.

 

id say master cylinder..but you can listen to us or call the dealer ship and youd get the same answer...good luck

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18CmeFLYby &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">id say master cylinder..but you can listen to us or call the dealer ship and youd get the same answer...good luck</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok, explain to me why it would be either of the cylinders if the slave cylinder is pushing the fork about an inch? I mean, that is plenty of movement to disengage the clutch.

Also, I have perfect pedal feel almost and no leaks.

Kenton

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2.2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok, explain to me why it would be either of the cylinders if the slave cylinder is pushing the fork about an inch? I mean, that is plenty of movement to disengage the clutch. </TD></TR></TABLE>If you can hold the clutch pedal down for a couple of minutes, and the fork slowly returns to its starting position, that's classic for a failed master cylinder. Did you try that?

Otherwise, I agree; broken clutch disk or pressure plate. Or at least the clutch has started dragging badly for some reason.

 

If it were doing that, I should be able to get my car into gear and then it would just start to engage. I cant even get the car into gear right after I press the clutch.

Kenton

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2.2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If it were doing that, I should be able to get my car into gear and then it would just start to engage. I cant even get the car into gear right after I press the clutch.

Kenton</TD></TR></TABLE>Yeah, that's right. So it's looking like your problem is actually in the clutch.

 

same thing happened to my buddy. it was the clutch/pressure plate. ur probably having the same problem.

 

it sounds like your pressure plate; i had the same prob...but I couldnt shift into gears past 3k because my clutch wouldnt grab hard(act); so i had to get an exedy kit

 

I just went to http://www.prostreetonline.com and found a decent price on the Exedy. I ordered that and some shifter bushings. I should have the tranny our of the car this week and the clutch in whenever it gets to my house.

If I do end up having to replace either the salve or the master cylinder, there are some Tokico ones on http://www.groupbuycenter.com real cheap. Like 30 bucks for the slave, and 50 for the master.

Kenton

 

Well, today I am going to be pulling the tranny off to see the damage. My clutch wont be here till the 4th, so that sucks. I am going to habe to borrow my sisters car until mine becomes operational.

Any recommendation on what MTF to use?

 

yea to me it sounds like your hydro clutch system is failing from the slave cylinder area.if bleeding the lines is no use. try replacing the clutch master cylinder and tell us how it went.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vteGraGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea to me it sounds like your hydro clutch system is failing from the slave cylinder area.if bleeding the lines is no use. try replacing the clutch master cylinder and tell us how it went.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, you were wrong.

In fact, everyone was wrong.

I got the tranny off this morning and as it turns out, there was a flywheel bolt that had backed itself out far enough to come into contact with the clutch disc. Chewed it up a lot and wouldn't let it disengage.

Kenton

 

i had that same problem with my car but mine kept moving forward.. it was weird cause when i race my car would roll forward slowly by it self and people thought i was cheating.. it was halarious.. but the cause of my problem was the "CLUTCH MASTERS LEAK" the thing that goes through where you put ur fluid in.. i think thats what its called.. but it cost me like 160 dollars to replace from acura and 40 bucks labor..

i don know if thats the problem with your car. but it was for mine.. hope this helps..