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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 07:52 AM
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The Valvoline Runoffs are on SPEED TV today and tomorrow starting at 11:00 am pacific time. Enjoy!
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 07:55 AM
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12:00 pm SCCA VALVOLINE RUNOFFS C Sports Racing
1:00 pm SCCA VALVOLINE RUNOFFS Showroom Stock C
2:00 pm SCCA VALVOLINE RUNOFFS G Production
3:00 pm BRITISH TOURING CAR CHAMPIONSHIP Thruxton
4:00 pm American Muscle Car Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
4:30 pm American Thunder Sturgis 2003 - Part 1
5:00 pm Motor Trend Television
5:30 pm Dream Car Garage Lamborghini
6:00 pm EUROPEAN TOURING CAR CHAMPIONSHIP Donington Park
7:00 pm BMW Test Drive 5 Series
7:30 pm Legends of Motorsport Of Time & Speed - Bonneville 1956
8:00 pm AMERICAN LE MANS SPECIAL Petit Le Mans Highlights
10:00 pm GOODWOOD FESTIVAL OF SPEED The First Ten Years Part 1
11:00 pm GOODWOOD FESTIVAL OF SPEED The First Ten Years Part 2

Above times are Eastern ...
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 08:46 AM
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Who won the Valvoline C sport race? I have my VCR recording most of that list lol..
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 08:48 AM
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Watching it right now!! w00t!

-nate- who misses the old speed vision
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 08:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Watching it right now!! w00t!

-nate- who misses the old speed vision </TD></TR></TABLE>

Agreed, but the coverage now isn't too bad. I just hope they don't replace some of the BTCC and ETCC with something like the new US drifting craze. I don't mind if they add it to their programing but they better not replace good racing with that crap.
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 11:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Watching it right now!! w00t!

-nate- who misses the old speed vision </TD></TR></TABLE>


Why? They show MUCH more racing on tv now.
Never before did they have sameday rally coverage, and def not 2hrs worth. Sure they show more Nascar now, but so? It's still racing.
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 12:01 PM
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The coverage was good as was the three races shown today.

4 big things I noticed...
1. The SSC field was just plain huge. That must've been fun!!!
2. The top 3 SSC cars were apparently running Hoosiers... But 2 of them had really, really big Kumho decals on their cars. I'm betting the Kumho folks didn't appreciate that very much .
3. The GP field was pretty big. 38 cars. Bad news for me since it just gives me more motivation to move up to GP in the next couple of years and make a runoffs visit.
4. Our old Honda Challenge friend Ken Buchel (who ran a couple of races last year in H5 and is a super nice guy) finished around 20th in GP. Quite respectable in a field that large.
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 07:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Catch 22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">2. The top 3 SSC cars were apparently running Hoosiers... But 2 of them had really, really big Kumho decals on their cars. I'm betting the Kumho folks didn't appreciate that very much </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well.... the 'technical' part of the show left alot to be lacking.

The SSC Panasonic Saturn team has been using kumhos for as long as i remember - and the commentators calling the car "heavy" is laughable (its probably the lightest in the field, at ~2550 lbs with driver.

But it was good coverage... and seeing a lunchbox roll everyone
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 07:47 PM
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They mentioned the top 3 cars making the decision to go to Hoosiers more than once. Maybe they meant full drys, but they said Hoosiers.
&lt;shrugs&gt;

Scott, whos been shrugging alot lately.
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 07:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Catch 22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They mentioned the top 3 cars making the decision to go to Hoosiers more than once</TD></TR></TABLE>

More than once? Like 87 times
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 08:00 PM
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I'm pretty sure tom long(3rd in SSC) was on kumhos. I met him at lowes a couple months ago I think it was. Very nice guy and congrats for the great position. We were talking about the kumhos they were running on their car. I also thought they said they were on an intermediate setup as well. I don't think the announcers really knew what they were talking about because they kept mixing up information.
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 05:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ryan12321 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm pretty sure tom long(3rd in SSC) was on kumhos.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's what Tom Long SR. said. Full depth Kumhos.
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 04:53 PM
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I'm pretty sure Tom was on full-depth Kumhos. Brilliant for the semi-damp start, but a bit off by the time the race finished. No problem, he was firmly in 3rd by then. Mike said he made the call for dry weather tires early on his hunch the wind meant a drying track. Nice call.

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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 05:44 PM
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Watched the GT4 race again today on TV after watching it in person. Congrats to Keith Gillespie for a great drive from 16th to 4th in the HASPORT CRX. Got some camera time during the race passing cars and even an interview at the end for a nice drive. Good way to turn around what started out as a really rough week.
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 05:55 PM
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GT4 is such a cool class. Cool, fun cars to watch go at it w/ each other.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 07:41 AM
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Bump, because the SSB race is on in a few minutes!
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 07:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mantic6t9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Agreed, but the coverage now isn't too bad. I just hope they don't replace some of the BTCC and ETCC with something like the new US drifting craze. I don't mind if they add it to their programing but they better not replace good racing with that crap. </TD></TR></TABLE>

hopefully then can show the entire race insted of chopping the coverage for BTCC and ETCC, it makes it to hard to follow . I suppose cutting a old Nascar race or Nascar News and etc. would help, but i doubt that will happen anytime soon. Atleast we have speed though
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 08:40 AM
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It looked like Grahobec was mugged in his 99 GSR! It also looked like the Mazdas were stacking up behind him. The RSX Type-S cars didn't show well. I wonder what SCCA is going to do to equalize the class now that "trunk kits" are out.
Link to the results: http://www.scca.org/amateur/cl...e.pdf
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 11:04 AM
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It looked like grahobec was taken out by saucier way too early in the race, if it were the last lap I would say hold the standings as they crossed, but saucier had plenty of time to craft a pass, seeing as how the lighter miatas were so much faster on the back half of the track than the integra. After that the announcer mentioned every 30 seconds how he thought scca should make a judgment call, are these races announced after they know the outcome?
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 12:01 PM
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The races are announced "live" as they are happening. They announced at the end of the broadcast that Saucier was given a 1 minute penalty for spinning Grahovec moving Saucier from 1st to 19th. Also, Phillips who finished in third place on the track was disqualified post race for a tech issue.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 12:52 PM
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Saucier did not have to do what he did. After the race he called it "unavoidable" but thats pretty weak. The guy was roughing up everybody around him and forcing his car into spots wayyyy too early in that race.
The sad thing is that all Saucier needed to do was apply pressure and be patient. NO WAY the front tires were going to hold up for 20 laps on that Integra under that kind of pressure. Absolutely positively no way in hell.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 01:06 PM
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 02:07 PM
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Anybody catch GT2 yesterday? That was a damn good race, except there were only 3 cars in it.

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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 03:30 PM
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Did anyone notice before the SSC race they had last years on track winner show the "minor" part that was missing from his car that DQ'd him? It was only the brake line mount from the front shocks. Of course that means the shocks could slide further into the forks and lower the front end and get extra camber. They made it look like a technical foul, not a functional one.

As far as the SSB race, maybe unavoidable means that the car crashing is unavoidable after you hit him that hard?

I did really like the Civic that won HP. Funny how huge it looked on track next to the old Brit roadsters.
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 06:14 AM
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For those like me who missed it, Christmas Day is a day full of Valvoline runoffs. From 6 am in the morning to 5 am the next morning.

I wonder if I have enough hard drive space to record for 24 hours...

http://www.speedtv.com/schedul...l=yes
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