This my seem like a dumb question. I have a 2002 accord V6. If I have a CAI or someother intake mod, will I see HP gains if I don't do anything to the exhaust. Anybody know what the HP gains might be? Any recomended brands for intake?

 

If you are just getting a CAI your taking a step in the right direction. The factory intake setup is somewhat if not very restrictive due to silencing and smog and emission control. However if you add a CAI you will still pass emissions with flying colors (its a honda and a new one at that). You should see HP gains with just CAI, but since your intake is getting more air it will need to get rid of those gases faster (a exhaust will aid in this) also what type is yours ex, lx dx? Reason I am asking is on my car 4th gen (90-93) they had different ecu and header set ups for different models. Anyways, hope this helps. And as far as gains, I would guestimate around with just CAI like 5hp and if your lucky and you have the v6 your looking around 10hp but with exhaust add a little more torque and not much horse.

 

I have the 2002 Accord EX V6 with 200hp at the crank and like 192 ft lbs torque. The reason I don't want aftermarket exhaust is to stay steathy. It'd be great if you could get a fat iron black exhaust pipe, like on the Lexus IS300 coming out the back, insted of a highly visible stainless dual exhaust. Haven't found one yet.

 

spraypaint the muffler black.

but no, you wont see any dramatic hp gains with any combination of bolt-ons, just a couple horses here and there.

 

the V6 actually responds very well to mods. an intake should sound nice and should give you a decent gain in power. imo, an exhaust on the V6 is not worth it powerwise unless you plan on getting some comptech headers in the future.

 

Any special spraypaint. I'd think spraypaint would just flake off?

I'd heard a CAI could add 10% hp. Is that too rosey an estimate?

 

I am looking at the K&N typhoon. but I don't know what the best brand is or best value. Anybodys recommends would be welcome.
Link to my car below:

http://www.cardomain.com/id/typhoonorchid

 

They make a high temp spray paint or you could just go with pacesetter muffler(JOKE JOKE JOKE) anyways, its a high temp spray paint you can use on anything from brake calipers to valve covers to the block to the list is long. They should have it in many colors, should only need 500 degree at the most just to be on the safe side and I also think that is the lowest of the high temp paint. You should find it at your local auto part stores. As far as brands of CAI, I am a believer in AEM, quality products and good power gains. Out of a v6 you will see more gains than a 4 banger due to displacement and the addition of 2 more pistons. So with a CAI you might be looking at a couple ponies but the sound is the coolest (but that isn't the reason why we get the intake) it also gives you a little bit better MPG and it cleans up the engine bay Also I went to my local exhaust guys and they hooked me up with mandrel bent 2.25" piping and a flowmaster muffler and I chose a fairly stock looking tip and you can't even tell, also its fairly quiet and rumbles a lil bit. The muffler tucks in their nicely and is smaller and flatter than stock, try this route. Hope this helps

 

get the cold air piping off ebay and just add a k&n filter, best bang for your buck.

the hi-temp paint should work fine with the muffler...i'm not sure if there's any kind of prep work..i'd imagine you'd have to scuff it up a bit first. search the appearance forum, a couple guys have done it.

 

Also if you were going for the "steath look" you can add headers and more potent fuel injectors and if you want to go all out a lightened flywheel will help make revs faster and will make tons more power, I read somewhere that the stock vs lighter flywheel was some 40-60% lighter, just imagine how much faster you will get to redline. Also when your doing your CAI, sounds dumb but don't forget to remove completely your resinator box and tubing, again this will make for a cleaner engine bay and you will have to remove your resinator if your installing CAI. And as far as the muffler painting goes, you would have to scuff it up a bit, just use some wet sandpaper like 800 grit should be fine and rinse and let it dry and paint away. If you go that route. Also if you are wanting a steath profile, I would recommend swapping into some springs that you can get a drop of only 1.2" which no one would really notice and it would help handling and dont forget shocks and struts, I would recommend eibach prokit and some koni (yellows), sweet setup.

 

VRDrvr-hahahahahahahahhaahahahahsha

there's no fu-king flywheel on an automatic car!

torque converter, bands and servo ownz joo

 

DOH (as homer would say) maybe I was thinking manual....but then again maybe I shouldn't have smoked that crack this morning......

 

alot of guys got lighten flywheel have problem with the starter grinding the "teeth".

a buddy of mine is getting lighten flywheel, act clutch and pressure plate for his awd turbo dsm, it should be pretty nice after he finish the job.

One more sugguest for you, intakes just intakes, it's not like you are putting a t3t04 with 1.1 bar or boost.

generally cai works better most of the time, but some people demand instant response perfer short ram, that would take care of the hydrolock problem also, just a little friendly reminder

 

AEM CAI=bandwagon stuff, get a used one and always change the filter once a year and you in good shape

 

True AEM is kinda bandywagonish....but they are the only people I have seen that post most of their results as far as CAI goes, so I went with them and I have been with almost 3 different intakes, AEM, Injen and DC, however AEM was the only CAI I have gotten, but from what I can tell it has the best response and the most power but so says my "butt-dyno"

 

that's cuz the aem is the only intake that "changes the sound frequency of the intake charge, resulting in more efficient combustion and more power"

 

AEM is one of the best CAI for an accord and its known by everyone and been proven. Plus the filter is most likely made by K and N or damn close to that. I agree with getting a used one as long as it loks good still. I put Aem CAI DC 421 header magna flow high flo cat and Greddy EVo catback system to my 95 EX about a month or so ago all at the same time sounds good and i feel a better throttle respnse in the mid RPM's depending on what gear im in. Do not expect much of any changes with adding just an intake although there will be a change probably more with a V-6. The only way you will actually feel a real difference is if you get into bigger HP gains at least 15 HP and up. I mean at the wheels not the crank. The total HP gain from what i had done to any $ cylinder is only gonna be 10-15 HP at the crank. Well good luck your starting in the right direction.

 

actually that soundwave stuff isn't crap. The IS300 has some weird variable intake that deals with that

 

Don't go by brand name. Go by design and by filter. Don't be brainwashed by AEM. There are other makes out there that will deliver the exact same power. You need to readup on what an intake actually does it sounds like and why the stock system is not that great.

And don't forget some of the negatives of having a CAI. Ever see the filter or piping of one of those intakes after a year or so? Your engine will definitely see some more dirt. That's what you get with a high flow filter. So weigh the pros with the cons. You'll get more power, but at what expense? That's why I put a short ram on my ITR. It's just not worth it to me.

If you've guys have ever done rebuilds on engines and get to see the wear caused by dirt and other things getting into your engine via the intake, you would understand.

But like I said, judge by tube diameter and filter, not by brand name.

 

YOur right about choosing by design not by name but how could you trust soemthing on ebay as someone stated earlier about buying from ebay. You cant compare anything. K and N filters design is copied by many no-name brands which are just as good. But getting rid of the stock intake is a very good idea.

 

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I wash my filters once a season, nevermind once a year.

Its fine if you keep it clean, but once a year is way too long.

 

k7n style filters tend to filter better as they get dirty actually. i do mine when i remember to, usually once a year or sometimes longer.