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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 02:54 PM
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Whenever I've accelerating hard, shifting fast, whatever; when I shift from 2nd to 3rd, 3rd gear almost ALWAYS makes a grinding noise as it goes into gear. If I'm driving slow, normal, whatever, it doesn't grind at all. I seriously don't think that its my technique, cause its not doing that in any other gear. I even try just holding the clutch in longer frm 2nd to 3rd than any of the other gears, and it still does it. Its like it only grinds when the motor is in a high rpm.

is it the gear? linkage? "driver?"

Anyone had this problem? (its a d16y8)
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 02:56 PM
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3rd gear synchro is going bad, try adding synchro fluid in tranny..
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 02:58 PM
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synchro fluid? or just regular manual tranny fluid?
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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GM syncromesh fluid.

If you didn't have a bad syncro I would only recommend Honda MTF.
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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This happens! My old tranny did that too! Either replace the synchro's, or add syncrho fluid, or just take it easy on the 2-3 shifts.
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 03:03 PM
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I know next to nothing about transmission so bear with me...

do i need to drain the fluid I have now, or just add the GM synchromesh fluid?

second, to do this....wheres the drain plug? Never been able to find it just peering down into the motor...

thanks in advance btw

oh how much fluid do i need if drain it all?
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 03:05 PM
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i had the same damn problem with my ek. it was only when i shifted aggressivly though.
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 03:12 PM
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Does anybody know where th syncro is located
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 03:13 PM
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how much fluid should i put in? D16Y8, manual duh
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 03:17 PM
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get a haynes manual, tranny holds like 2.sumthin qt
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 03:30 PM
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why is it that my shifter is so hard to shift even when i step on the clutch my friends shifter shifts smoothly even w/o pressing the clutch it just **** me off cause people say i suck at shifting when in reality its not me
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 03:35 PM
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You need to drain all the fluid.
Uses 2.3 liters.
GM Syncromesh fluid, try google. Or search here.
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 03:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civic_type_r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why is it that my shifter is so hard to shift even when i step on the clutch my friends shifter shifts smoothly even w/o pressing the clutch it just **** me off cause people say i suck at shifting when in reality its not me </TD></TR></TABLE>

do you have a short throw with bushings? mines feels alot harder to get into gear than it used too...
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 05:08 PM
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I have the same problem with my ex coupe...changed the entire tranny, but it was due for it anyway. Still grinds going into third, friend said it might be shift linkage but I will try this synchro idea. Thanks.
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 05:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by elevatethis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know next to nothing about transmission so bear with me...

do i need to drain the fluid I have now, or just add the GM synchromesh fluid?

second, to do this....wheres the drain plug? Never been able to find it just peering down into the motor...

thanks in advance btw

oh how much fluid do i need if drain it all?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes and yes, drain plug is on the bottom. Take a socket wrench (umm 1\2 inch drive) and stick it into the plug.
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 06:19 PM
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i'd also recommend changing your tranny fluid, and you can double clutch 3rd to have no grind, hehe. takes it easier on the 3rd gear synchro
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 07:16 PM
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go regrind third and get a new snycro
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 08:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by greebler &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes and yes, drain plug is on the bottom. Take a socket wrench (umm 1\2 inch drive) and stick it into the plug. </TD></TR></TABLE>

wrong it takes a 3/8" driver. here:

my tranny grinds like a bitch everytime i shift to 3rd above 4000, and 2nd above 5000 (it only has 60k) .

try some of that gm syncromesh, and start double clutching to third - its real easy: just kick the clutch, take out of second, kick it again, pop it into third and give it some gas - all in one smooth quick motion. thats what i do all the time now and no there's grinding
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 09:13 PM
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its a 3/8" drive, also according to honda del sol service manual d series tranny takes in

1.9 quarts for changing tranny fluid

2.0 after an overhaul
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 09:17 PM
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seems like this topic is cover every week

i had the same problem changing the fluid didnt help.. i found out my clutch was killing me so i changed it and it solved the problem new clutch with some Honda MTF this was in a 94 GSR
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 09:18 PM
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okay what about this, i have a 93 civic si and when i shift from first to secind really fast(have a short shifter) it grinds a little could itbe because my tranny doesn't have enough time to slow down and i might need a lightenflywheel or should i also used the synchrofluid stuff, my car only has 65k miles on it
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 09:33 PM
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i have a 5th gear grind.... explain that!
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 01:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jwn7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

wrong it takes a 3/8" driver. here:

my tranny grinds like a bitch everytime i shift to 3rd above 4000, and 2nd above 5000 (it only has 60k) .

try some of that gm syncromesh, and start double clutching to third - its real easy: just kick the clutch, take out of second, kick it again, pop it into third and give it some gas - all in one smooth quick motion. thats what i do all the time now and no there's grinding </TD></TR></TABLE>

your wrong, its a 3/8" drive ratchet.
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 08:10 AM
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there is a thing called a driver you put on the ratchet - don't believe me? look in your helms manual: it says "using a 3/8 DRIVER...." and they have a picture of it in the special tools page for that chapter. but, a 3/8" ratchet end will do the same.
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 08:59 AM
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i have somewhat of the same problem. i tryed changing the MTF. didn't help. i just have to take it easy. it seems to have more of a tendency to grind when its cold. its weird. and the more you take it easy the less you'll notice. the more freqent you grind the more you'll notice it in lower rpms
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