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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 02:37 PM
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I tried searching and I can't quite find what I'm looking for. I was wondering if it'd be possible to use an oem front/rear hub thats 4x114 on a set of dc2/eh suspension? I want to know if there's a way to do that so I wouldn't have to redrill rotors everytime. I looked @ a rear bearing/hub from a civic and a accord and they seem indentical (inner diameter) of the bearing, but as far as the front goes, I was thinking accord or prelude front hub. Someone also mentioned the new insight for front hubs. I would like to try and have my setup as close to oem as possible (which is why I'm against redrilling the prelude vtec rotors). Also I was wondering what would I run for a rear rotor/caliper setup. So if anyone has any info on the front (like what hub/bearing combo) or what brakes & calipers lemme know. Thanks a lot.
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 02:40 PM
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Default Re: 4x114 hub and brake question? (Death Scythe)

ITR 4x114 conversion

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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 02:51 PM
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yeah, I already saw that and then I was searching. I was thinking about if the calipers were the same as gsr's and rotors the same size [re: jdm 96-spec itr], and the knuckle itself is the same as a gsr, then I should be able to use the 4x114 prelude vtec rotor w/ a modified itr caliper (shaving the bracket), like the fastbrakes kit. except I want to see if I can utilize the 4x114 instead of redrilling it.

I looked up the part#'s between the dc2 front knuckles and they're all the same [only diff is wether or not abs/non abs]. I mean I figure I already have the knuckles & rotors & calipers, so I just need to figure out a hub/bearing combo that'll work.

As far as the rear, I might try the prelude rear rotor & hub/bearing, unless someone has some info that can help.

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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 03:51 AM
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c'mon, sombody has to know what hubs to use... bump.

PS. or if anyone knows what hubs are used on the jdm 96-spec itr [or something similar], thanks [I shoulda re-worded my question like that ]

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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 05:20 AM
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I've been trying to do the same thing. I just want to know if anyone has done something different.
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 07:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ludedeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've been trying to do the same thing. I just want to know if anyone has done something different. </TD></TR></TABLE>

also If I use the lude front hubs [which should/could/might work?] then I'd be able to use the larger joints. I think I'll tryt the lude/accord rears becuase they look a lot beefier and put the track out by like 2-3mm on each side. I wonder if the fronts would do the same also.
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 07:50 AM
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Why does everyone make it so hard on themselves? Just redrill GSR rotors and call it a day.
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 08:56 AM
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i also heard about the hybrid hub deal im gonna go by honda this week and find out for sure. You said the insight, but i heard it was the hybrid sedan. Either way im gonna get some concrete answers on the issue.
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 11:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Carlo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why does everyone make it so hard on themselves? Just redrill GSR rotors and call it a day.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well, I've already explained myself above, so redrilling isn' really an option I would like to do. And if I could take advantage of using the larger splines on the prelude joints [for the front hubs] then I would also like to do that.
As far as making it hard on myself, I have all winter to work on my car, so I'm going to try and get the setup working the way I would like to. But thanks, I did know of redrilling the gsR rotors [which I would be redrilling prelude vtec rotors in my case].

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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 11:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Death Scythe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
But thanks, I did know of redrilling the gsR rotors [which I would be redrilling prelude vtec rotors in my case].
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Heh... but Prelude VTEC (92-96) rotors are already 4x114 so no need to redrill anything on them. Just overall diameter is larger so modifications to the caliper brackets will need to be done on the ITR knuckle. I just got some Rotora x-drilled rotors (pretty damn cheap and good quality) and redrilled them to 4x114 and threw them onto a set of ITR 4-lug knuckles we have... fit like a glove.
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 11:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Newman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Heh... but Prelude VTEC (92-96) rotors are already 4x114 so no need to redrill anything on them. Just overall diameter is larger so modifications to the caliper brackets will need to be done on the ITR knuckle. I just got some Rotora x-drilled rotors (pretty damn cheap and good quality) and redrilled them to 4x114 and threw them onto a set of ITR 4-lug knuckles we have... fit like a glove.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually, my braking steup right now is standard gs-R brakes front/rear.
I want to upgrade to the larger 11" fronts and itr calipers, that would require redrilling of the rotor and grinding of the caliper bracket. Then I noticed the 96 spec itr brake setup and noticed it uses same size brakes/calipers as my gsr brakes, just 4x114. So I figure that I can take my knuckle, w/ the modified itr calipers, 4x114 hubs [probably off a prelude], and non modified prelude vtec 11" rotors, to have a setup in the front that would work. As far as the rear, I'd just try and figure out
another setup, probably similar to the fastbrakes 11" rear setup.
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