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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 07:56 PM
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I did a search already...thanks.

I own a 2000 CX hatch and I don't see too many people swapping Si engines into their hatches. I was interested in finding out if anyone has ever done this complete swap and if you think it is worth it? Also, how difficult might this swap be? (I'm assuming it's not to difficult.) I mainly use my car for daily driving and I autox 1-2 per month. Thanks in advance.
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 07:59 PM
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It's a B16 swap into a hatch...that is something that tons of members on here have done. Honestly it's not that fast and for the same amount of money you can turbo your car and outrun people with the B16 swap (but the b16 does have more potential). And it really isnt that hard..if you have a Helms for a 96-99 Civic it has the engine removal for your motor and the engine install for the B16 right in it.
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 07:59 PM
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Plug and play.

Use 99-00 Si harness and ECU, and it will all plug in, except you will have to add wires for the second O2 sensor.

Or, use your stock harness, add VTEC and knock sensor wires, and extend the second o2 wires so it can reach the cats new location behind the engine.
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 08:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HXMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Plug and play.

Use 99-00 Si harness and ECU, and it will all plug in, except you will have to add wires for the second O2 sensor.

Or, use your stock harness, add VTEC and knock sensor wires, and extend the second o2 wires so it can reach the cats new location behind the engine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

He has a 2000 CX, so he already has the secondary 02 sensor, but it will need to be extended.
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 08:05 PM
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Default Re: Si swap into 2000 cx (Ricey McRicerton)

Thanks for the quick responses!

I wanted to stay away from the turbo setup because it takes time for it to spool up, which can cost you precious seconds at the track. Also, wouldn't an Si engine be cheaper?
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 08:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by phillycx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the quick responses!

I wanted to stay away from the turbo setup because it takes time for it to spool up, which can cost you precious seconds at the track. Also, wouldn't an Si engine be cheaper?</TD></TR></TABLE>

That B16 has just about zero torque, so no matter how how long it takes that turbo to spool up you are going to have more power and torque than the B16. And you should be able to do both for just about 2500 bucks. Dollar for dollar the turbo is going to be faster, but require more work.
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 08:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ricey McRicerton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That B16 has just about zero torque, so no matter how how long it takes that turbo to spool up you are going to have more power and torque than the B16. And you should be able to do both for just about 2500 bucks. Dollar for dollar the turbo is going to be faster, but require more work. </TD></TR></TABLE>

ic...well, that takes me back to the drawing board. i guess that b18b is starting to look better. The complete swap with install won't cost me $2500.
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 08:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by phillycx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

ic...well, that takes me back to the drawing board. i guess that b18b is starting to look better. The complete swap with install won't cost me $2500. </TD></TR></TABLE>

That's a great platform for boost later on as well.
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 08:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by branch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">boost... aka waste of time, get da all mota vtech[z]</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's only a waste of time because you don't have money for it boyeee!! Plus with your tranny you can't even bang through your mAd 3rD G3aR VtEk y0!!
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 08:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by branch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">pffft, if would just quit granny shiftin' and start double clutching it might go in one day </TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't worry, you can probobally get it in doing all that before I wind out my long *** second gear.
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 05:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ricey McRicerton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It's only a waste of time because you don't have money for it boyeee!! Plus with your tranny you can't even bang through your mAd 3rD G3aR VtEk y0!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Right, so the point is to look for a different type of tranny...gsr, b16, etc. I'm pretty knowledgeable about this topic...however, the long gears might work to my advantage...hmmmmmm.
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 06:11 AM
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yo phillycx... do u remember me?

i'll be helping a friend put in a b18b and b18c5 in two different cars.... so eventually i might be aswap expert soon.... if u need any help
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 06:16 AM
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Default Re: Si swap into 2000 cx (Ricey McRicerton)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ricey McRicerton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That B16 has just about zero torque, so no matter how how long it takes that turbo to spool up you are going to have more power and torque than the B16. And you should be able to do both for just about 2500 bucks. Dollar for dollar the turbo is going to be faster, but require more work. </TD></TR></TABLE>

very true, but then you can swap the B16 for now... rebuild and turbo that motor and have even better results then only boosting the D16. its all about the long run.
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 07:31 AM
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Of course I remember you! (Silly question...) Anyway, if you're doing a swap I'd like to help, or even just observe the process. If that's cool get back to me and let me know. [I'll send you an im too if I see you on line.]
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