i have an es oval muffler but im wondering what type of piping to get so i can get the most out of my exhaust system. Obviously the es oval won't do anything alone so what do you recommend for piping?

 

custome strait pipe did u get the 2.5" or the 2.25" cause i hope u got the 2.5.

 

on my order sheet it says choose 2.25in or 2.25out, whats the difference??

 

The size.

 

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huge help buddy

 

out is the tip of the muffler, and in would be the collecter ( correct me if iam wrong ). but either way u wont see the gains u wont, unless u get a 2.5" a 2.25 is to small

 

since you got the 2.25" muffler you'll need 2.25" piping. This should be fine for your hx motor if that is what you have. You don't need 2.5" unless you are pushing more power. For your car 2.5" would be overkill.

 

yeah i have my stock hx motor. i guess it worked out okay having the 2.25 muffler because even you said the 2.5 would be to much. thanks.

 

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Youd be ok with 2.25 for a bit.. its better then stock size piping, id personally pick up a custom exhaust setup, since you have yoru muffler you can get the rest of the catback piipng pretty cheap! look on our site, we dont a ton of the ppl in your area

 

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why would you say 2.25" is too small for a hx motor? 2.5" piping will not give you a very fast exhaust velocity and cause you to lose power. A lot of aftermarket exhaust systems are 2.25" piping.

 

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A lot of aftermarket exhaust systems are 2.25" piping.</TD></TR></TABLE>

a lot are 60mm actually so bout 2.36.. also remember 99% of exhaust makers and companies all list and quote OD outside diameter.. the ID inside diameter is changed by the thickness of the material they use..

So its universal and naturally listed in OD, that way it all lines up and bolts near the same. but the actual ID is different, from those who use the cheap thin piping, which likes to rattle and vibrate and sound like bee's.. to those who use the really thick stuff, which is a bit heavier of a system but sounds better and will last longer IMO.. you just have to find the right middle of the two differents

 

I highly don't recommend the Kteller8 custom exhaust systems, at least if you have a hatchback.

I ordered a 2.25 ss system for my '94 hatch and the fitment was terrible. I took several expensive trips to the muffler shop to get the right parts to get the system to fit.

The first problem is the rear piping section the goes over the rear suspension assembly. It angles up way too far and the the bend goes far to long before it straightens out.



the end result with the muffler kteller8 sends, with all teh slack taken out of the pipes, so that it hits the heat shields and the bend show above hits the underside of the car



a great fit maybe if i had a COUPE ; now with the end pipe cut right back to the bend...


still no good, the muffler also hangs way to low because of the extreme bend over the rear axel hitting the underside of the car.

Of course i send a message to accordinglydone and there was no response , there'd be no refund chance anyways. So i ordered a different muffler from hottexhaust.com, an 11" body instead of a 14" with an OFFSET outlet, so it would match the bumper cutout THANKYOU...



I had to cut half the inlet tip off and jam the pipe in right to the bend and jam an aluminum sheet metal spacer in to bridge the gap because the pipe diameter is a bit smaller where its clamped for the mandrel bend.

After nearly 1000$ cdn, and several trips the the muffler shop, lots of heat shield hammering, we got the exhaust system fit in without rattles. But because the muffler is so small, it sounds like loud crap, and i'm very not satified with it. what made it worse is that the hottexhaust.com guy said he could sell me a made to fit magnaflow ss system for less than i bought all the kteller8 parts uninstalled. . gotta do research guys, don't make my mistake.

Kteller8 - was this system tested on a hatch at all, or did i get the wrong parts, because this was a joke. the "stock exhaust" measurments only work for stock exhaust diameter.

I'm still endecided whether i should get somone to cutom pipe that rear section and put the oval es muff in or just scrap the whole system and buy somthing made to fit. Wow, it was months ago and i'm still this ticked about it, by far my worst mistake on my car project.

d

 

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2.5inch piping is great, if it's necessary. An HX motor doesn't need that big of a set up, and he'd be better off with a 2.25 set up

 

That is god-awful...

Let me see if I can snap some pics of my exhaust, I have custome mandrel bent 2.5in exhaust w/ ES oval muffler. A company by the name Dan Fast designed it for me. Fairly cheap and was done in 2 hours.

BTW, Inlet means incoming exhaust from engine. Outlet means exiting exhaust from muffler. No offense, I'm kindof curious how it didn't make sense. I take it your a perfectionist and just wanted to verify..

 

976 - Do you have a resonator? If so company name and size please.

 

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BTW, Inlet means incoming exhaust from engine. Outlet means exiting exhaust from muffler. No offense, I'm kindof curious how it didn't make sense. I take it your a perfectionist and just wanted to verify.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

was that question for me?

 

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I ordered a 2.25 ss system for my '94 hatch and the fitment was terrible. I took several expensive trips to the muffler shop to get the right parts to get the system to fit.

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I ordered the 2.5" SS piping kit for my hatch and it fit great.

I had his piping with a Magnaflow muffler and resonator and a carsound cat connected to my Toda header. Thing sounded and performed amazing

 

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None, yeah it's loud w/ a stripped hatch and a JDM 4-1 header...

I do love the sound of the Es oval though for ppl who are curious...

 

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why would you say 2.25" is too small for a hx motor? 2.5" piping will not give you a very fast exhaust velocity and cause you to lose power. A lot of aftermarket exhaust systems are 2.25" piping.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wow, a person who understands that bigger is not always better. As far as exhaust is concerned. I am impressed.

 

any pics of your setup kris1? you've seen mine. maybe he did send the wrong parts, but hey, they have no customer service

Is yours an eg hatch? does your muffler outlet come through the cutout? The trunk belly seemed to be in the way for the oval es the match the bumper cutout on mine, even if the piping did line up properly.

d

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daver &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">any pics of your setup kris1? you've seen mine. maybe he did send the wrong parts, but hey, they have no customer service

Is yours an eg hatch? does your muffler outlet come through the cutout? The trunk belly seemed to be in the way for the oval es the match the bumper cutout on mine, even if the piping did line up properly.

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I will try and post some pics later tonight. and yes mine was an EG hatchback. I did just buy the piping. I watched them install it at the exhaust shop, It isnt exactly a plug and play deal. They cut and fitted and welded each section piece by piece.

 

as for the Magnaflow parts I used:

2.5" 5x8 SS muffler 14226 (14x20)
2.5" 26" SS resonator 14501
2.5" Carsound cat 93500 series (cant recall the exact #)

 

ummm..... why didnt you just cut a few inches off that piping??????????? and weld the es on. duh

 

as this is only the second time ive ever heard of this, let me address these concerns to my best knowledge.

we dont send any mufflers with the piping, all mufflers are ordered by the customer.. we've shipped over 75 of the same spec mufflers.. why yours didnt fit.. its merley a installation issue


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for some odd reason, the piping could of been a coupe or you could of ordered a civic piping kit and not a hatchback kit... I was never address and never saw what you ended up with, so i have no clue to what the issue was

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Of course i send a message to accordinglydone and there was no response , there'd be no refund chance anyways. </TD></TR></TABLE>

actually if you took just five mins. to email me directly.. my name and email is all over this site as well as anywhere i post.. i am sure this problem would of been fixed. Ask anyone with problems or concerns and not only do i answer within less then 24 hrs but ive even helped sell other ppls kits, i ve tooken back kits after several not just once time. but 3-4 people have wrecked their car and i helped and given them refunds..

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as you can find in 13 pages .. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=380727
we have nothing but 100's of happy people, if there ever is a problem, ive either called the shop doing the install or have sent additonal if not replace parts to make sure that the shop doing the install , knows and has the ability to do it right..

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Kteller8 - was this system tested on a hatch at all, or did i get the wrong parts, because this was a joke. the "stock exhaust" measurments only work for stock exhaust diameter. </TD></TR></TABLE> every system i sell, is custom bent using a computerized mandrel bender. the same bends each and every time.. they are all taken from molds and models of stock oem exhaust..

just like i ve had ppl send in extoic stock system, imput them into the system.. create and mandrelly bend a new sytsem for them at OEM SPEC and in their desired size..

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I'm still endecided whether i should get somone to cutom pipe that rear section and put the oval es muff in or just scrap the whole system and buy somthing made to fit. Wow, it was months ago and i'm still this ticked about it, by far my worst mistake on my car project.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the first time i heard of some kind of problems. i posted and responded and asked you dave to contact me, which i was never contacted...

so just to show how i stand by what i sell i ONCE AGAIN WILL CALL YOU OUT and have you contact me!

If anyone doubts anything i sell, i can provide you with information as well as someone to contact bout their setup..

we provided the exhaust for the Ominman 200whp B16 and will be sending kits to the ITR expo as well as other group events..

Mike K

 

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I ordered the 2.5" SS piping kit for my hatch and it fit great.

I had his piping with a Magnaflow muffler and resonator and a carsound cat connected to my Toda header. Thing sounded and performed amazing </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks!