Should I be entitled to a refund?
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Should I be entitled to a refund?
I wont mention any names (yet) but I recently
purchased a used set of blue anodized rays lugs
that were supposedly used for 1 month. When
I received them to my surprise 4 out of the 20 lugs
were FUBAR'd (FUCKED UP BEYOND ALL RECOGNITION)
The 4 lugs were victims of over torque. The other lugs had
damage to them as well, but not as bad. Honestly if I were
selling these lugs I would truly feel guilty for not mentioning
the 4 severely damaged lugs and the handful that have bad wear.
Apparently this guy was selling the lugs for his friend, I asked
if he can compensate me in anyway or if I can receive a refund in
full. He responds back to me and says that his friend already spent
the money. I have already expressed to him that I am not going to
use these lugs on my TE37's. To clarify even more so I would not
use these if I got them for free. I want a full refund.
Me personally, I am upfront with my sales and very honest. I think
I have built a respectable reputation here on ht as my track record
goes to show https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=549522. its quite annoying to see
shady crap like this in return.
http://uploads.dddcity.com/sim...3.jpg
http://uploads.dddcity.com/sim...4.jpg
What do you guys think?
ek9vboi was the seller, 11/17/03 he agrees to give "some" money back. He has not contacted me since then. I would like to receive a full refund, but it looks doubtful at this point.
Again I do not care if you are selling items for another person but how do you go about selling something and dont even care to consider what the condition of the actual item is. Or in other words how did you & your friend miss those 4 shiny fucked up lugs and not mention anything in your post?
Modified by kendogg at 1:07 AM 1/7/2004
purchased a used set of blue anodized rays lugs
that were supposedly used for 1 month. When
I received them to my surprise 4 out of the 20 lugs
were FUBAR'd (FUCKED UP BEYOND ALL RECOGNITION)
The 4 lugs were victims of over torque. The other lugs had
damage to them as well, but not as bad. Honestly if I were
selling these lugs I would truly feel guilty for not mentioning
the 4 severely damaged lugs and the handful that have bad wear.
Apparently this guy was selling the lugs for his friend, I asked
if he can compensate me in anyway or if I can receive a refund in
full. He responds back to me and says that his friend already spent
the money. I have already expressed to him that I am not going to
use these lugs on my TE37's. To clarify even more so I would not
use these if I got them for free. I want a full refund.
Me personally, I am upfront with my sales and very honest. I think
I have built a respectable reputation here on ht as my track record
goes to show https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=549522. its quite annoying to see
shady crap like this in return.
http://uploads.dddcity.com/sim...3.jpg
http://uploads.dddcity.com/sim...4.jpg
What do you guys think?
ek9vboi was the seller, 11/17/03 he agrees to give "some" money back. He has not contacted me since then. I would like to receive a full refund, but it looks doubtful at this point.
Again I do not care if you are selling items for another person but how do you go about selling something and dont even care to consider what the condition of the actual item is. Or in other words how did you & your friend miss those 4 shiny fucked up lugs and not mention anything in your post?
Modified by kendogg at 1:07 AM 1/7/2004
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Re: Should I be entitled to a refund? (kendogg)
those four are useless now... should be recycled. How about a partial refund..just ask for 1/5 of what you paid for and see what he says. That seems fair ... unless you have a 5 lug... then yeah.. I'd be pissed too.. 
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Re: Should I be entitled to a refund? (CRX_VTEC)
Geez man!!! That sucks!!! Buying used stuff really stinks these days when you are dealing with crappy sellers... But YES, I think you should get your money back, but I'm pretty sure that ain't gonna happen. It usually never does.
Anyways, brand new Rays lug nuts are like only $100 in the Sponsor's Forum... IS all this crap you have to deal with now worth saving a few bucks getting them used???
I don't think so... Well, hindsight is 20/20, so next you'll now...
Good luck trying to resolve this....
Modified by SiClone at 12:43 PM 11/17/2003
That sucks!!! Buying used stuff really stinks these days when you are dealing with crappy sellers... But YES, I think you should get your money back, but I'm pretty sure that ain't gonna happen. It usually never does. Anyways, brand new Rays lug nuts are like only $100 in the Sponsor's Forum... IS all this crap you have to deal with now worth saving a few bucks getting them used???
I don't think so... Well, hindsight is 20/20, so next you'll now...Good luck trying to resolve this....
Modified by SiClone at 12:43 PM 11/17/2003
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He had one picture posted on his thread but it just showed them in packaging from up top, and text that mentioned something like used for 1 month. If I had known rays lugs could get damaged like so I would have personally asked but since he didn't mention anything I presumed everything was fine and dandy. Is this good trading ethics?
My wheels are 4 lug but 1 out of 4 lugs that are badly damaged happen to be 1 one of the 4 lock nuts.
My wheels are 4 lug but 1 out of 4 lugs that are badly damaged happen to be 1 one of the 4 lock nuts.
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Re: (kendogg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kendogg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He had one picture posted on his thread but it just showed them in packaging from up top, and text that mentioned something like used for 1 month. If I had known rays lugs could get damaged like so I would have personally asked but since he didn't mention anything I presumed everything was fine and dandy. Is this good trading ethics?
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damn, that blows... deceptive marketing was this from a guy on HT?
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damn, that blows... deceptive marketing
was this from a guy on HT?
Re: Should I be entitled to a refund? (kendogg)
How did you pay for them? If you used credit card (CC) through PayPal, you can always file complaint w/ them & your CC company. Do both since PayPal seems to be more responsive when they have someone who carries more weight than us consumers breathing down their necks.
I'd check w/ seller to see if he's willing to resolve this matter before proceeding w/ above actions, though. I believe 20-25% refund would be warranted.
----- Antony
I'd check w/ seller to see if he's willing to resolve this matter before proceeding w/ above actions, though. I believe 20-25% refund would be warranted.
----- Antony
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Re: Should I be entitled to a refund? (player2z)
I paid with a personal check. In the case this doesnt resolve the way I want it to would I be able to contact my bank and tell them the situation?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by player2z »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No because it was a risk u took sorry thats how buying is</TD></TR></TABLE>
and I believe if you were in my shoes you would say the same thing? right...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by player2z »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No because it was a risk u took sorry thats how buying is</TD></TR></TABLE>
and I believe if you were in my shoes you would say the same thing? right...
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Peeps should always be up front with the damage....hell, personally when I sell something, I remind the person of the damage I had already posted so that when they receive an item they can't complain
Sorry about your lugs....thats f-ed up!
Sorry about your lugs....thats f-ed up!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kendogg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My wheels are 4 lug but 1 out of 4 lugs that are badly damaged happen to be 1 one of the 4 lock nuts.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ahh damn that sucks
Sorry man
Bad sellers
Ahh damn that sucks
Sorry man
Bad sellers
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Re: Should I be entitled to a refund? (kendogg)
did the seller specify the condition of the lugs before the transaction at any time? meaning did you ever explicitly say what condition.
i'm not pointing the blame on you, but as buyers we too have a responsibility to ask all questions before a transaction.
i know whenever i sell things i always have a detailed write up on condition and provide plenty of pictures. i would also refund as a seller if the condition was not what i described.
i say refund if you're returning them or partial if you decide to keep them. good luck.
i'm not pointing the blame on you, but as buyers we too have a responsibility to ask all questions before a transaction.
i know whenever i sell things i always have a detailed write up on condition and provide plenty of pictures. i would also refund as a seller if the condition was not what i described.
i say refund if you're returning them or partial if you decide to keep them. good luck.
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you know what, i sold him the lugs. yes its me. as i told you in the many pms you have sent to me. he spent it, i can maybe get some money back.
here is the story:
i had them posted on a thread, everything i sold to others, no complaints.
here they are:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=662050
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=662214
i never looked at the underside of the lugs. didnt think about it. from the pics that i took everything looked good.
i did have pictures, but erased them a while back so people with 56k can take a look. i willt try to look for them and repost them for others to see.
here is the story:
i had them posted on a thread, everything i sold to others, no complaints.
here they are:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=662050
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=662214
i never looked at the underside of the lugs. didnt think about it. from the pics that i took everything looked good.
i did have pictures, but erased them a while back so people with 56k can take a look. i willt try to look for them and repost them for others to see.
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Re: Should I be entitled to a refund? (sys3rror)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sys3rror »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did the seller specify the condition of the lugs before the transaction at any time? meaning did you ever explicitly say what condition.
i'm not pointing the blame on you, but as buyers we too have a responsibility to ask all questions before a transaction.
i know whenever i sell things i always have a detailed write up on condition and provide plenty of pictures. i would also refund as a seller if the condition was not what i described.
i say refund if you're returning them or partial if you decide to keep them. good luck.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I might have asked but I don't have the PM history to prove it.
Everything appeared to be good so thats why I bought them, esp
since the seller did not mention anything about the lugs being
damaged.
I would have never purchased the lugs knowing that they were this way.
There is no way I am using these lugs on my car, I am not a firm believer
of using damaged items on any part of my car. I just want a full refund, nothing else.
i'm not pointing the blame on you, but as buyers we too have a responsibility to ask all questions before a transaction.
i know whenever i sell things i always have a detailed write up on condition and provide plenty of pictures. i would also refund as a seller if the condition was not what i described.
i say refund if you're returning them or partial if you decide to keep them. good luck.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I might have asked but I don't have the PM history to prove it.
Everything appeared to be good so thats why I bought them, esp
since the seller did not mention anything about the lugs being
damaged.
I would have never purchased the lugs knowing that they were this way.
There is no way I am using these lugs on my car, I am not a firm believer
of using damaged items on any part of my car. I just want a full refund, nothing else.
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i just check the pms and this is all i have, so if you got more it would really help out.
(11:29 PM 11/10/2003) kendogg: just letting you know I didnt receive it today. Hopefully it comes tomorrow. Any idea what method your friend used to ship the lug nuts?
(11:46 PM 11/10/2003) ek9vboi: usps or ups. ima give him a call tomarrow. sorry its taking so long.
(3:12 PM 11/12/2003) kendogg: yo I got the lug nuts today. A little disappointed that 4 out of the 20 lugs were in very bad shape (I suppose they were victims of to much torque) it looks like someone just shaved the curved part of the lugnut because all I see is silver (instead of anodized blue) and a bit of metal shavings peeling off (not to mention a lot the lugs have some damage as well, but minimal). I don't know if ill be using this set anymore, maybe ill just spend 30$ more on a new set https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=632738
Honestly if you took a picture of the underside of the lugs I probably wouldn't have waited out. But since you said that they were used for a short time I assumed that they would be okay, I guess thats my fault. What do you think?
(9:41 AM 11/13/2003) ek9vboi: im sorry about that. these were on my boy's car. i never thought about taking pictures of the underside of the lugs. i only took a pic of them while they were in the casing. again sorry. i have to take blame for this one, even though i am just the middleman. sorry
(8:11 PM 11/13/2003) kendogg: any chance of returning it back to you? or getting compensated some cash?
http://uploads.dddcity.com/sim...1.jpg
http://uploads.dddcity.com/sim...2.jpg
honestly speaking would you want to use this set on your volks? personally I wouldn't and not planning to.
(8:25 PM 11/13/2003) ek9vboi: i dont have volks or gramlights. again i was only the middle man. i didnt know anything about the underside of the lugs. please dont make it a big deal. i dont want people calling me and sending me threats. if i didnt give him the money already, of cousre i would refuund you some.
(9:41 PM 11/13/2003) kendogg: by listing these items on ht for your friend I presume you took responsibility for the tranasction, did you not? Can you talk to your friend about a possible refund?
(10:28 PM 11/13/2003) ek9vboi: yea
(11:28 AM 11/16/2003) kendogg: hey did you ask your friend yet?
(4:31 PM 11/16/2003) ek9vboi: yea. he told me he spent it already. sorry, but i can't really do anything abut it.
(9:08 PM 11/16/2003) kendogg: well I dont care if he spent it, save it up again and refund me.
(7:51 AM 11/17/2003) ek9vboi: are you demanding? i told you, i don't have your money. if you want to make a big deal out of it go on.
(10:45 AM 11/17/2003) kendogg: You know what put yourself in my shoes for a minute. I don't think you or anyone else would appreciate receiving damaged items, unless you were informed about it before hand. You being the middleman has nothing to do with it. You posted all these items for sale, so I believe it leaves you responsible. Im not making a big deal out of it, im making a HUGE deal out of this because I want a refund. Im sure you would want a refund also if you received a set of fucked up rays lugs especially if you weren't informed.
(11:16 AM 11/17/2003) ek9vboi: like i told, i didnt look at the underside of the lugs. i only saw the upper side, which in most cases if more inportant then the underside. its not like you are going to see the underside of them. plus u got an extra 4 lugs to use. there is no need for fowl lang. i can understand what you are going thruogh. i got HIDs from h-t and 1 of the bulbs were broken, so i pm'd the guy and he didn't do nothing. atlease you didnt have to spend another 50 bucks for a new bulb, u have 4 extra.
(11:31 AM 11/17/2003) kendogg: thats not the scenerio though. Just because you were not refunded for the bulb it gives you the right not to refund me? This is about my dealing with you, nothing else. There are 4 lugs that are not useable, and 1 out of those 4 happen to be 1 of the 4 lock nuts. I am not going to use 4 regular lugs on one wheel for obvious reasons. Secondly I am not using these lugs on my wheels. Honestly if you were a car enthusiast like me its literally throwing **** on your car, theres no way im using these lugs because thats what they are to me. They are just sitting on my desk. I havent mentioned your name to anyone yet. Futhermore if you keep hassling me about my refund ill be forced to post everything up and possibly jeapordize your reputation. I do not want to go that route, so kindly speak to your friend about forking over the cash I paid for these lugs, and ill ship them exactly how they are over to you.
(11:49 AM 11/17/2003) ek9vboi: well since you made a thread and said no names, i decided to rat myself out. happy? now u don't have to do it.
(11:53 AM 11/17/2003) kendogg: cool ill post the pm's
(11:55 AM 11/17/2003) ek9vboi: ok, but don't post my addy, name, number and etc. thats where it crosses the line.
(11:55 AM 11/17/2003) ek9vboi:
(11:57 AM 11/17/2003) kendogg: okay np, so bottom line is you have no intentions of getting a refund for me? is that correct?
(11:58 AM 11/17/2003) ek9vboi: i do, but not all of it. i can't do much. sorry
(12:01 PM 11/17/2003) kendogg: why not? you were the seller of the item. Take some responsibility.
(12:03 PM 11/17/2003) ek9vboi: i am, like i said i am going to try to get some money back. is that not "some responsibility"
(11:29 PM 11/10/2003) kendogg: just letting you know I didnt receive it today. Hopefully it comes tomorrow. Any idea what method your friend used to ship the lug nuts?
(11:46 PM 11/10/2003) ek9vboi: usps or ups. ima give him a call tomarrow. sorry its taking so long.
(3:12 PM 11/12/2003) kendogg: yo I got the lug nuts today. A little disappointed that 4 out of the 20 lugs were in very bad shape (I suppose they were victims of to much torque) it looks like someone just shaved the curved part of the lugnut because all I see is silver (instead of anodized blue) and a bit of metal shavings peeling off (not to mention a lot the lugs have some damage as well, but minimal). I don't know if ill be using this set anymore, maybe ill just spend 30$ more on a new set https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=632738
Honestly if you took a picture of the underside of the lugs I probably wouldn't have waited out. But since you said that they were used for a short time I assumed that they would be okay, I guess thats my fault. What do you think?
(9:41 AM 11/13/2003) ek9vboi: im sorry about that. these were on my boy's car. i never thought about taking pictures of the underside of the lugs. i only took a pic of them while they were in the casing. again sorry. i have to take blame for this one, even though i am just the middleman. sorry
(8:11 PM 11/13/2003) kendogg: any chance of returning it back to you? or getting compensated some cash?
http://uploads.dddcity.com/sim...1.jpg
http://uploads.dddcity.com/sim...2.jpg
honestly speaking would you want to use this set on your volks? personally I wouldn't and not planning to.
(8:25 PM 11/13/2003) ek9vboi: i dont have volks or gramlights. again i was only the middle man. i didnt know anything about the underside of the lugs. please dont make it a big deal. i dont want people calling me and sending me threats. if i didnt give him the money already, of cousre i would refuund you some.
(9:41 PM 11/13/2003) kendogg: by listing these items on ht for your friend I presume you took responsibility for the tranasction, did you not? Can you talk to your friend about a possible refund?
(10:28 PM 11/13/2003) ek9vboi: yea
(11:28 AM 11/16/2003) kendogg: hey did you ask your friend yet?
(4:31 PM 11/16/2003) ek9vboi: yea. he told me he spent it already. sorry, but i can't really do anything abut it.
(9:08 PM 11/16/2003) kendogg: well I dont care if he spent it, save it up again and refund me.
(7:51 AM 11/17/2003) ek9vboi: are you demanding? i told you, i don't have your money. if you want to make a big deal out of it go on.
(10:45 AM 11/17/2003) kendogg: You know what put yourself in my shoes for a minute. I don't think you or anyone else would appreciate receiving damaged items, unless you were informed about it before hand. You being the middleman has nothing to do with it. You posted all these items for sale, so I believe it leaves you responsible. Im not making a big deal out of it, im making a HUGE deal out of this because I want a refund. Im sure you would want a refund also if you received a set of fucked up rays lugs especially if you weren't informed.
(11:16 AM 11/17/2003) ek9vboi: like i told, i didnt look at the underside of the lugs. i only saw the upper side, which in most cases if more inportant then the underside. its not like you are going to see the underside of them. plus u got an extra 4 lugs to use. there is no need for fowl lang. i can understand what you are going thruogh. i got HIDs from h-t and 1 of the bulbs were broken, so i pm'd the guy and he didn't do nothing. atlease you didnt have to spend another 50 bucks for a new bulb, u have 4 extra.
(11:31 AM 11/17/2003) kendogg: thats not the scenerio though. Just because you were not refunded for the bulb it gives you the right not to refund me? This is about my dealing with you, nothing else. There are 4 lugs that are not useable, and 1 out of those 4 happen to be 1 of the 4 lock nuts. I am not going to use 4 regular lugs on one wheel for obvious reasons. Secondly I am not using these lugs on my wheels. Honestly if you were a car enthusiast like me its literally throwing **** on your car, theres no way im using these lugs because thats what they are to me. They are just sitting on my desk. I havent mentioned your name to anyone yet. Futhermore if you keep hassling me about my refund ill be forced to post everything up and possibly jeapordize your reputation. I do not want to go that route, so kindly speak to your friend about forking over the cash I paid for these lugs, and ill ship them exactly how they are over to you.
(11:49 AM 11/17/2003) ek9vboi: well since you made a thread and said no names, i decided to rat myself out. happy? now u don't have to do it.
(11:53 AM 11/17/2003) kendogg: cool ill post the pm's
(11:55 AM 11/17/2003) ek9vboi: ok, but don't post my addy, name, number and etc. thats where it crosses the line.
(11:55 AM 11/17/2003) ek9vboi:
(11:57 AM 11/17/2003) kendogg: okay np, so bottom line is you have no intentions of getting a refund for me? is that correct?
(11:58 AM 11/17/2003) ek9vboi: i do, but not all of it. i can't do much. sorry
(12:01 PM 11/17/2003) kendogg: why not? you were the seller of the item. Take some responsibility.
(12:03 PM 11/17/2003) ek9vboi: i am, like i said i am going to try to get some money back. is that not "some responsibility"
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(12:05 PM 11/17/2003) kendogg: well some money back is not what I want. I am not going to use these lugs as I mentioned repeatedly. Some money is not good enough, because ill still be stuck with these lugs.
(12:09 PM 11/17/2003) ek9vboi: well i can't do nothing about it, but try to get SOME money back. best i can do. i doubt he will give it all back. thats all i can really say, anything else and everyone will be on my back trying to get a piece of me.
(12:09 PM 11/17/2003) ek9vboi: i have to go to class nowm HAVE A GOOD DAY and try not to stress yourself out.
(12:10 PM 11/17/2003) ek9vboi: 
okay so he was selling the lugs for his friend. How is getting some money back the best you can do? Ask your buddy to fork over the cash and ill ship the lugs back. Everyone trying to get a piece of you? what do you mean kid? So you know you are at fault for selling damaged goods.
(12:09 PM 11/17/2003) ek9vboi: well i can't do nothing about it, but try to get SOME money back. best i can do. i doubt he will give it all back. thats all i can really say, anything else and everyone will be on my back trying to get a piece of me.
(12:09 PM 11/17/2003) ek9vboi: i have to go to class nowm HAVE A GOOD DAY and try not to stress yourself out.
(12:10 PM 11/17/2003) ek9vboi:
okay so he was selling the lugs for his friend. How is getting some money back the best you can do? Ask your buddy to fork over the cash and ill ship the lugs back. Everyone trying to get a piece of you? what do you mean kid? So you know you are at fault for selling damaged goods.
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information like that should have been disclosed before the sale...thats just bad selling ethics. i would be pretty pissed off too if i received items that were damaged like that, if i was expecting to receive items that were in good conidition. the seller should just take back his product and refund the money, simple as that
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Re: Should I be entitled to a refund? (kendogg)
REFUND, if the seller says they're in good condition then they should arrive in good condition. telling part of a truth when you're selling stuff is fucked up.
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Re: Should I be entitled to a refund? (egMee)
thats what i'm saying...if you sell something thats in good conidition and don't disclose the major defects, and the buyer in good faith bought the items, he should be entitled to a refund since the product that arrived was not the one described in the sale
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hey man, good news! i manage to get most of it back, which is $70!!! is that cool? thats more then i thought i wuld get back for you. well u have the info, so just give me word and i'll get to it once i get the lugs back. am i still a bad seller? after all i was just the middleman
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kendogg (12:44 PM 11/19/2003): so whats going on, lets get this resolved.
ek9vboi (1:55 PM 11/19/2003): ok he said 70 bucks back to you. u have to send it to him/me 1st and i'll write out a check and mail it. told you i could get something. plus if i screw u over, just post my info on h-t. get back to me
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kendogg (1:58 PM 11/19/2003): why would I have to take a 10$ hit? If anything you guys should refund me in full and pay for shipping for causing me this inconvenience? Had you been up front with the sale in the beginning none of this would have happend.
ek9vboi (2:00 PM 11/19/2003): dude your pissing me off. i got you ******* $70 back and ur still want more? wtf? if i were you, i would just be happy. make sure you post this on h-t, so they can see how piggish you are! i told you i am the middleman and would get you some money back and i got you all most all of it. its up to you. this is the last time. TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT!
ek9vboi (1:55 PM 11/19/2003): ok he said 70 bucks back to you. u have to send it to him/me 1st and i'll write out a check and mail it. told you i could get something. plus if i screw u over, just post my info on h-t. get back to me
eric
kendogg (1:58 PM 11/19/2003): why would I have to take a 10$ hit? If anything you guys should refund me in full and pay for shipping for causing me this inconvenience? Had you been up front with the sale in the beginning none of this would have happend.
ek9vboi (2:00 PM 11/19/2003): dude your pissing me off. i got you ******* $70 back and ur still want more? wtf? if i were you, i would just be happy. make sure you post this on h-t, so they can see how piggish you are! i told you i am the middleman and would get you some money back and i got you all most all of it. its up to you. this is the last time. TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT!
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Re: (ek9vboi)
WTH? Why should he lose $10 for nothing? He paid $80 right? And he's gonna send back all the lug nuts right? So why should he lose $10 just because of your friend? THat doesnt make any sense. Your friend screwed up, so your friend should be the one giving full refund, PLUS the cost of shipping. BTW, those look like it got damaged when someone tried to use Tuner style lug nuts on stock wheels, is that wat happened?