A point was made in another thread that got me thinking. I want to get a new set of calipers sometime in the future - but I also would like them to fit under my 15x7" wheels. Obviously, I want these calipers to be an upgrade from the stock calipers.

What aftermarket calipers currently in production will fit under 15" wheels for the R?

 

Spoon 4 pot.
Endless 4 pot?
Mugen (doh...thought that these fit under 15" mf10's...guess I'm wrong.)
NSX

 

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Mugen
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They make one that fits under 15" wheels now???

 

I've always like the Endless system, but thought they would not fit under 15" wheels (can't remember where I heard that).

Anyway, here is a spec diagram for the Endless Type R system - can anybody compare these to the stock calipers specs?



A=164mm
B=89mm
C=56mm

The system kit for the R is $2,675 and includes calipers, slotted rotors, lines, pads, and adaptors.

 

what about the legend or nsx calipers...or even the fastbrakes setup??

 

I was kind of checking out the same thing a little while back. Aftermarket calipers with 15" wheels.

Although people are anti-Spoon these days, basically the Spoon 4-pot were the only ones I found that would work under a 15" rim.

If you go to a 16" rim then you have many more options, but with 15's you are kind of stuck.


Modified by garth at 9:13 AM 11/17/2003

 

yeah right now I am thinking it is eaither Spoon (I am not anti-Spoon btw) or some NSX calipers with the thicker rotors.

 

You can run wilwood dynalites I believe as well. 4 pot and light weight.

 

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better off with the oem piece

 

Endless 4pot will fit, but you need wheels with some serious offset. That or some nice and thick spacers.

 

Alcons... fit under the OEM ITR rim

 

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</TD></TR></TABLE>Oh oh oh please tell where you got these. I have been thinking of trying to get these for my teg

 

I`m german...

But I guess you can get them here:
http://www.alcon.co.uk/

Offices
USA

Alcon Components [USA]Inc
Illinois

T +1 [847]788 0901

F +1 [847]788 0947

E pstubbs@alconusa.com

NASCAR Support Office

T +1 [704]799 2723

F +1 [704]799 2723

E jthomas@alconusa.com

SERVICE CENTER,
North American Race Parts,
Mooresville,
North Carolina

T +1 [704]658 0071

F +1 [704]658 0073

Distributors
USA (south)

Baer Racing Phoenix, Arizona

T +1 [602] 233 1411

F +1 [602] 352 8445

BSR Products Concord, North Carolina

T +1 [704] 795 0901

F +1 [704] 795 7403

Hoerr Racing Products Peoria, Illinois

T +1 [309] 691 8789

F +1 [309] 691 8796

North American Raceparts Indianapolis

T +1 [317] 244 9694

F +1 [317] 243 8905

STaSIS Enginering Sonoma California

T +1 [707] 935 9700

F +1 [408] 353 9458

 

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North American Race Parts,
Mooresville,
North Carolina
T +1 [704]658 0071

BSR Products Concord, North Carolina
T +1 [704] 795 0901</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nice...

They are right up the road from me.

Caliper part number?
Rotor part number?
Pad selection?

 

I don`t know the numbers, because this pic is not my car
My brake kit is another one



May work for you as good as the Alcons, Will

 

This is my friend's AP 4-pot under 15x6.5 TE37 +45mm offset on his 96spec ITR. He needs to use spacer and shave off the calipers to clear the spokes.

He got them in 1996 so there weren't any other selections at all. So he had to do a lot of custom work to make everything fit. With this same brake setup, I believe now there are more 15" wheel selections that would fit over them (SSR 15x7.5? Kosei 15x7 +35?)

But just a friendly reminder. Everytime he needs to replace the front rotors, it costs him $500. You gotta pay to play:

 

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He got them in 1996 so there weren't any other selections at all. So he had to do a lot of custom work to make everything fit. With this same brake setup, I believe now there are more 15" wheel selections that would fit over them (SSR 15x7.5? Kosei 15x7 +35?)

But just a friendly reminder. Everytime he needs to replace the front rotors, it costs him $500. You gotta pay to play:

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Well, the AP Kit I posted above fits under the OEM wheel..

For your friend I would recommend Kosei K1 7*15 ET 38mm

 

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Well, the AP Kit I posted above fits under the OEM wheel..

For your friend I would recommend Kosei K1 7*15 ET 38mm
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His stock wheel is 4-lug 15" (96spec) and has less clearance than the 5-lug 15" OEM that we have in the oversea market. And again, when he did this upgrade, it was back in 1996. Kosei K1 (or Buddy Club P1 in Japan), along with many other low offset 15" wheels were not available at that time.

He managed to make it fit under his 4-lug 15" OEM wheel too.

 

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Just to be clear: what is the size for the oem itr wheels you're referring to?

I ask this purely for clarification - as honda has different sizes throughout the world... In the US, we get a 7-spoke, 15"x6", +50 offset

 

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Illinois

T +1 [847]788 0901

F +1 [847]788 0947
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whoa, alcon is in my area code.

 

Ok Wai,

Why don't we post what you and I have already been talking about recently with relation to price, fitment and the neccessity for new or type specific rotors when contemplating a serious setup like the Alcon or AP.

$ for $ The damned Spoon calipers seem to be the most cost effective with relation to performance/upgrade.

This is STILL one of my favorite setups:


Sven, sorry if I didn't look at my email recently. You just make me sooo jealous Every time you post Jan's caliper setup though.


Chef

 

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whoa, alcon is in my area code.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I just noticed the same. I will try to locate an address.

 

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Just to be clear: what is the size for the oem itr wheels you're referring to?

I ask this purely for clarification - as honda has different sizes throughout the world... In the US, we get a 7-spoke, 15"x6", +50 offset</TD></TR></TABLE>


That`s the rim we got....

Anton:
No matter what pic of Jan`s (my buddy`s) parts you post....every single part is picked out of the best money can buy... including the interior (full carbon.. it`s amazing)

 

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I just noticed the same. I will try to locate an address. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Already been searchin guys:

http://www.hrpworld.com/index.cfm

The TA4 Monoblock caliper:

Features and Benefits:

* Four piston staggered bore design for better pedal feel and reduced pad taper
* Machined from billet aircraft aluminum alloy for superior strength at high temperatures
* Mono-block construction for increased caliper stiffness
* Large pad area and volume for maximum braking performance and pad life
* Titanium nitrided stainless steel pistons for reduced heat transfer
* Ventilated piston inserts to reduce heat transfer through the brake fluid

Piston Size - 1.750"/1.625"
Pad Thickness - 20mm
Standard Rotor Size - 13" x 1.375"

PRICE PER CALIPER: $2,200.



Unfortunately the next model up only gets more expensive which is why I asked Sven to get the part number from Jan.

Sven, how much were your AP's per caliper? Euros or Dollars is fine.

 

OUCH 2200 per caliper.. but it looks real nice.. anyone got these on their cars?