this is already in the crx forum, so (mods) please dont throw it over in there. i thought you guys might have some input that the crx guys wouldnt know, because of the integra b18c engine. dont ask about the auto tranny; my left leg aint doin all that good.

what all would i need other than a crx body, b18c long block, p72 auto ecu, auto ls tranny, and a jrsc + fuel management? im mainly concerned with fitment issues and if i would have to eliminate things like ac or power steering to get everything to fit good. ive got a b18b teg that i got for $4700 thats in great shape; its worth $6k or a little more with all mods taken into account (i/h/e, cat, suspension, rims+tires, stereo, minor cosmetic items, etc.) and i got an offer out of the blue for $5500 (might be able to get it up to $5700). would/should i be able to get a rustless crx with minor dents/dings, a b18c long block, ls auto tranny, p72 auto ecu, and anything else needed for under $4k (already got the m62 jrsc, need $1k set aside for possible shipping and/or installation costs, and would like $1k set aside for other mods)? my best bet would be to find a crx with a shot or super-high mileage engine and then find a b18c long block with decent mileage (~100k; i only drive around 3k a year), correct? i hope you guys can help me out with my crx/integra hybrid project im considering.

btw, what kind of quarter mile times should i expect with the jrsc running on 6 psi in a b18c crx?

 

i'm sure it would fit fine. you might want to check with place racing to see if they make a mount that would be good for your project. it actualy sounds like fun. you could find a good stall converter and up the preassure in the auto and you'll be shiftin real good.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmotorsports &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'm sure it would fit fine. you might want to check with place racing to see if they make a mount that would be good for your project. it actualy sounds like fun. you could find a good stall converter and up the preassure in the auto and you'll be shiftin real good.</TD></TR></TABLE>

but a tight fit, i expect. is place racing a company? do they sell engine mounts like hasport? ive been looking for a really cheap b18c for my teg, but since i got a decent offer for my ls, my eyes wandered towards the lightweight crx as a b18c chassis. i dont think ive seen a b18c crx (TONS of b16a crxs and a few b18b crxs), but i did see a b20vtec for sale... the gude crx and its going for over $8k . i figure around 210 whp on a crx with no turbo lag should be a very fun ride and still get decent gas mileage with minimal addition engine wear because of the low boost.

so all else that i would need is engine mounts, correct? what about an ecu harness? different axles?

 

just discoved a problem: how do i go about doing a manual -&gt; automatic conversion ? what parts do i need and whats the average price of each?

 

just buy an auto crx

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VSM3point5genDC4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just buy an auto crx</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats becoming a little problematic. i dont think i have found ANY autos in a 300 mi radius. so what all would i need for the manual -&gt; automatic swap, and what kind of price am i looking at?

 

why do you want a auto, i know i saw a build up in a magazine and they were building a drag crx ,and used a auto ls trans rebuilt by levelten but thet are diong it to be consistent at the track and will be making over 600hp but wat is youre reason...

 

Read his thread then edit your post

 

well, you'e not going to need a P72ecu, since the GSR intake is no longer being used.

I think you'll have some serious issues with fitting the auto tranny in the CRX chassis. I remember a manula to auto b16 swap a friend did in an EG, and they had to beat the hell out of the pass side subframe to make it fit. Last time I checked, the EG had a ton more room than the EF.....

Good luck, as it will be a wicked setup once it's done.

 

make sure to upgrade that tranny. Auto trannies dont take kindly to 200% power increases.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hypa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well, you'e not going to need a P72ecu, since the GSR intake is no longer being used.

I think you'll have some serious issues with fitting the auto tranny in the CRX chassis. I remember a manula to auto b16 swap a friend did in an EG, and they had to beat the hell out of the pass side subframe to make it fit. Last time I checked, the EG had a ton more room than the EF.....

Good luck, as it will be a wicked setup once it's done.</TD></TR></TABLE>

isnt the p72 the only ecu with vtec and an auto tranny availably programmed in? i really have my eye on the crx over the civic. couldnt you just cut out the space thats interfering with the tranny then weld it back on reversed? it would retain its rigidity at the spot and it would allow the tranny to fit. what are the hazards of beating the section thats interfering with the tranny?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jet Black &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">make sure to upgrade that tranny. Auto trannies dont take kindly to 200% power increases.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i doubt id be pushing 280 hp with a jrsc'ed b18c boosting 6 psi.

 

I think there might have been P28 with auto combinations, but I've never heard of a P72 with auto in this country. P28 is usually cheaper and more plentiful too, only this missing compared to P72 is secondary intake control and knock sensor, and you can take care of knock with a J&S...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by roadrunner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think there might have been P28 with auto combinations, but I've never heard of a P72 with auto in this country. P28 is usually cheaper and more plentiful too, only this missing compared to P72 is secondary intake control and knock sensor, and you can take care of knock with a J&S...</TD></TR></TABLE>

ive actually seen more p72 autos than p28 autos . did the p72 auto come on the auto jdm integra sir-g? did the p28 auto come on the auto vtec civic? so if i could find a cheap p72 auto, it would be better than the p28; but if i cant find any for a good price, the p28 would be able to fit my needs with a few modifications, correct?

 

The only automatic DOHC VTEC Integras were sold in Japan, so good luck finding one of those ECU's. You might could run a chipped auto P28.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hites &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i doubt id be pushing 280 hp with a jrsc'ed b18c boosting 6 psi.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ya....you're right...whoops...I was thinking of the std 106 for the CRX...but he's using the ls tranny

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jet Black &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Ya....you're right...whoops...I was thinking of the std 106 for the CRX...but he's using the ls tranny </TD></TR></TABLE>

i thought you might have thought that. would either the the level 10 torque convertor or the level 10 pts kit beef up my auto ls tranny enough? or would i have to have both to actually get a significant increase in reliability?

just found this on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...01775
somebody should offer a service like this with uberdata.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hites &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i thought you might have thought that. would either the the level 10 torque convertor or the level 10 pts kit beef up my auto ls tranny enough? or would i have to have both to actually get a significant increase in reliability?

just found this on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...01775
somebody should offer a service like this with uberdata.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

you so need a user title to go with that avatar.

bump

 

parts list:

crx
b18c long block
hasport engine mounts
integra ls auto tranny
auto p72 ecu
automatic interior pieces
level 10 torque convertor
level 10 stp kit
taller hood
axles?

well, what did i forget or get wrong?


Modified by Hites at 1:33 AM 11/15/2003

 

buy a b18c3. then ull have the gsr automatic tranny too.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by QuikLS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">buy a b18c3. then ull have the gsr automatic tranny too. </TD></TR></TABLE>

those arent rare . would you know where i could get one?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hites &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">parts list:

crx
b18c long block
hasport engine mounts
integra ls auto tranny
p72 ecu
94-95 teg auto tcm
automatic interior pieces
level 10 torque convertor
level 10 stp kit
taller hood
axles?

well, what did i forget or get wrong? </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<U>GREAT NEWS!</U>

got a second opinion and a check up on my leg today, and it looks like im healing near perfectly and itll be good as new in about a month or two. you know what this means:
auto out, manual in. this is going to help my project greatly; gonna ditch the $800 worth of level 10 auto tranny accessories, $300 ecu, $100 worth of interior pieces, and ill have the fitment issues cleared up. so, should i get a b16 tranny (shorter gears)? or is it not strong enough to handle my application? if the b16 tranny is a go, then what should i get with it to get the most out of it? im looking for something smooth and affordable. if youve ever driven an svt focus, you know how smooth i want it to be.

 

UPDATED parts list <U>with prices</U>:

crx = $1000
b18c engine swap -ecu = $2100
engine mounts = $400
chipped p28 ecu = $200
cf zc hood = $400
labor = $500
body work +paint = $1500
axles?

well, what did i forget or get wrong?

that body work and paint is dragging me down HEAVILY and also putting me over budget. is there any thing that get rid of rust or stops it from spreading? if i were to eliminate the body work and paint, i would have an extra $1400 left on my budget to spend on aftermarket things. with $1400 i could get suspension, wheels, tires, header, and intake; and for those of you who think i cant get all those quality pieces for under $1400, youre wrong; did it with my ls teg for $1200 . btw, am i going to have to have an exhaust fabricated? would a side pipe(s) be easier and less costly? what axles should i be looking for?