ok i got 4ws on my car... now i'm wanting to know how this reacts, i feel as it gives me abit of oversteer when taking corners fast, the back sort slides out alittle. does that happen to u guys as well?
someone told me that when your travelling at higher speeds the wheels tend to turn the same way as the front to minimize the oversteer. eg.

Slow turns:
/ / <-front

\ \ <-rear

Fast turns:
/ / <-front

/ / <-rear

can anyone give me any insight on this.. i'm sure there plenty other people wondering what there 4ws works as well...

 

i gathered a lot of info on 4ws..
cause i wanted to install it to my 5th gen ..
( the swap would be kinda easy but ... )
the weight and cost keep me from doing it ..
the prelude is already too heavy to accept another 100lbs on top
neway
so

... reactions i gathered from people that tried it on track..
most people thought that it wasn't that helpfull
and could even be tricky

though ..lot's of people try to get their back end rotate a little more on tight corner wich i think that the 4ws does great at..

cause i helps rotation without loosing grip..

on the high speed ...i had nocomments of i beeing good or bad

don't listen to people that say that 4ws was designed for tigh parking places and stuff like that..
that's not true
i've read a lot of japaneese pages that talked about 4ws and all the companies that developped 4ws systems were all aiming at performance and stability ..not drivability in town or whatever

so in all..if u have it on ur car..i'm sure that u will greatly benefit of it on tight places..and it remains to test on fast long curves...


the wheels turn on the reversed side up to a certain speed..at wich they are completly parallell to the car..
then they start to go on the same side of the fron wheels the more u accelerate..

the crossoer point is supposed to be 30km/h but lot of people seemed tohave find diff information for diff cars..maybe they changed it from 92-93 same..then 94+ is the newer 4ws system like it is used on JDM and UK 5th gen ..

 

i test drove a 4ws steering prelude, and i found it to be noticeable at every speed. slow turns were taken quicker while high speed turns just seemed smoother. what i noticed on highway driving was that changing lanes didn't feel like the car was pointing itself in one direction, the car felt like it was sliding into the next lane rather than turning. i enjoyed it a lot, but the dealership wanted 13,000 for a 94 w/95k on it. suprisingly they sold it for that the next day.

 

Was 4WS avaliable with the VTEC motor?

 

Nope, not in the US..

About 4WS on the track.. I think that Driven to the LIMIT, it woudn't be as good as standard steering.. The back end would try to walk away from the car in corners, Increasing Oversteer and less traction. Maybe Im wrong though..

 

Yeah, I think like all the gizmos and gadgets to aid driving are to make bad drivers better, and are just a hinderance to talented drivers who have a full understanding of a car's dynamics. Not that I'm any good.
All a good driver needs are steering, brakes, and a throttle. Oh and a gear box too.

 

i think that u are right on that..

 

Hmm, interesting... i took my mums 94' Mazda MX6 4ws spin, took a corner at 80kph and my friend stuck his head out the window to check how the rear wheels turn on the Mx6, and its no different as to travelling at 10kph.

In my prelude at high speeds, the rear wheels do acutally turn the same way. i'm not sure when the Xover is... I guess if it always turned the oposite way then you'd encounter oversteer. (mmm overstear on FWD )

U guys know of any sites with info form Honda regarding how they went about 4ws and how it supposed to make driving much better? i guess it wasnt the best idea as well coz they havn't continued it thou so ye.

 

by the way ..they still have 4ws in japan and uk ..
up to 2000lude models
and some accord had that recently too

 

mmm interesting, here in Australia, only the preludes 3rdgen & 4thgen had 4ws...

otherwise no other honda had it.

 

First, your friend is a dumbass =~) Second, I don't see how the car would corner properly if the rear wheels turned the same direction. Hum, its to confusing for my head!

 

logically..
havin the rear wheels turning the same direction than the front
is weird
cause that would bring the rear end of the car inner from the curve..and induce understeer nah ?
or just make the rear loose all traction..

i can't understand either how does that works for the car ..

 

hmm, you might be right bout my friend being a dumbass ... i guess i can't check my self, i mean i could let him drive but well would i relaly want him to drive? hmm, nah....


i'll have to find someone i trust and i'll have to check it out next time.

 

Well, the dumbass part is sticking the head out the window to watch the rear wheels at 80 km/h. For most people this would entail removing their seatbelt and lifting their butt out of the seat to get their head out far enough to see the rear wheels. This is a stupid thing to do any time in a car, especially when cornering at relatively high speeds.

 

4doorh22, ok the corner i take is a S bend, i am capable of taking this corner at 138kph, (stock sussy atm)

so doing it at 80 isnt' soo bad, yes its dangerous but i don't push it hard, i have no intentions. teh car has practically no body roll, their are 3 lanes + no one on the roads when i do this.

well yes its dangerous i can't argueabout it.

 

ohh bvtw he had the seatblet on, put one leg on the seat and stuck his head out da window.


he was still strapped in 'incase' of an accident.

btw its not 138, its 118 dont' knwo where that 3 came from

 

Yeah well I'm sure all of us here drive fast which is inherently dangerous. The point is to not take any unnecessary risks to see which was the back wheels steer!