Competition Engineering tie rod ends, yay or nay?
Was looking at these in jegs and summit since I need tie rod ends on the car I'm building anyway, any opinions?
http://www.competitionengineer...21003
http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/nc...r=361
thanks,
Jared
http://www.competitionengineer...21003
http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/nc...r=361
thanks,
Jared
nay.. not worth money i have then on my car and wish i never swapped to them.. they dont really save any weight. and what happens is it losen up and cause wheel to shake at high RPM i had to tighten the clevis many time to make sure i didnt run into problems.. ... bottom line is the stock ones works fine and there is no need to swap out to them
we have them, and I like them. Although we have not run with them yet. We went through many sets of factory with the last car and I hope these will fix that problem.
I have them on my street car and am very pleased with how responsive the make the steering.
As with any aftermarket upgrade you want to make sure things are staying torqued down as they should be.
As with any aftermarket upgrade you want to make sure things are staying torqued down as they should be.
Jared, I almost forgot to add that you may lose some of your steering radius with these on.
I also belive that SPC (or similar company) makes outer tie rod ends with heim joints on them.
Modified by 1 at 7:47 PM 11/13/2003
I also belive that SPC (or similar company) makes outer tie rod ends with heim joints on them.
Modified by 1 at 7:47 PM 11/13/2003
Hmm, didn't know spc made anything, i'll have to check them out, i've had very good luck with everything else from spc.
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Jared said he is now using them and likes them very much. Is anyone else using them and if so, do you like them? Are they on your street car or race car? Thanks
Phil
Jared said he is now using them and likes them very much. Is anyone else using them and if so, do you like them? Are they on your street car or race car? Thanks
Phil
we are running them on the turbo 4 civic coupe - no problems at all with them - any saved weight is good saved weight
james innes
james innes
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Thanks. Do they come w/ torque spec in the instructions?
Phil
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Thanks. Do they come w/ torque spec in the instructions?
Phil
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Thanks. Do they come w/ torque spec in the instructions?
Phil</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes
Thanks. Do they come w/ torque spec in the instructions?
Phil</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes
it should be noted that you can add spacers between the spindle and the tierod end, to help clearing up bump steer issues, when using these, something that you cant do with a factory tie rod end, unless ya want to go swaping ball joints.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dturbocivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it should be noted that you can add spacers between the spindle and the tierod end, to help clearing up bump steer issues, when using these, something that you cant do with a factory tie rod end, unless ya want to go swaping ball joints.
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and they give you plenty of bolt to add spacers, it sticks out of the nylock at least 1/2"
</TD></TR></TABLE>and they give you plenty of bolt to add spacers, it sticks out of the nylock at least 1/2"
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Ture
Ture
iv heard of so many of them loosening up... i figured something like this might work better as far as the whole loosening problem is concerned
Damn Tom thats some nice work man...is that for the hotrod car you are building? If so any more pics of it?
sorry to get offtopic...
sorry to get offtopic...
i have them on my crx drag car. havent run with them yet though. they donot fit correctly on a EF need to be shortened, which i guess is better that need to be lenghtened. if any one knows how much to shorten them on a EF please post it.
wow back from the dead...
I have a competition engineering kit... For a street car it really sucks to lose the steering radius. I had my dad sitting shotgun in my EG yesterday and I attempted a super easy U turn on a wide undivided highway and I had to do a three point turn instead... he was like "this thing's turning radius is worse than a 1 ton long box truck."
He's basically right.
Kit was expensive too! The rod ends it comes with are the super shitty made in china ones. Definitely not Aurora, etc.
Oh well I plan on modifying the kit to fix the steering radius problem, upgrade to better rod ends, etc. Shouldn't be too difficult to improve the kit.
The stupid part of the kit is how it replaces part #1 in this diagram: http://www.hondaautomotivepart...R+BOX
From what I remember, the SRR kit kept that part OEM but for some reason Competition Engineering switched to the clevis bracket/rod end... Not only does that mess up your steering radius but it also makes the stock tie rod boots fit like garbage.
I have a competition engineering kit... For a street car it really sucks to lose the steering radius. I had my dad sitting shotgun in my EG yesterday and I attempted a super easy U turn on a wide undivided highway and I had to do a three point turn instead... he was like "this thing's turning radius is worse than a 1 ton long box truck."
He's basically right.Kit was expensive too! The rod ends it comes with are the super shitty made in china ones. Definitely not Aurora, etc.
Oh well I plan on modifying the kit to fix the steering radius problem, upgrade to better rod ends, etc. Shouldn't be too difficult to improve the kit.
The stupid part of the kit is how it replaces part #1 in this diagram: http://www.hondaautomotivepart...R+BOX
From what I remember, the SRR kit kept that part OEM but for some reason Competition Engineering switched to the clevis bracket/rod end... Not only does that mess up your steering radius but it also makes the stock tie rod boots fit like garbage.
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its almost impossible to fix these problems. The poor steering radius and the fubar'd susp geometry from their off-axis radius rods are inherent to the faulty design. its not something you can fix, it really makes a lot more sense to start over with a new traction bar
its almost impossible to fix these problems. The poor steering radius and the fubar'd susp geometry from their off-axis radius rods are inherent to the faulty design. its not something you can fix, it really makes a lot more sense to start over with a new traction bar


