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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 09:42 AM
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I'm currently running 13.4-13.5's all day long with a best of 13.46. I really want to run mid 12's next year and would like some help getting there. My set-up is JDM B16a in a Crx Dx with I/H/E, Zex 75-shot of dry nitrous, ACT clutch and skunk 2 short shifter. I've been using some auto-x slicks and did this all on full interior. I recently gutted out the car of everything but the driver seat and dash and also did a rear D-fuser to the bumper. What do you think I need to do to get to my goal?
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 09:50 AM
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 09:51 AM
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Take out the a/c, disconnect the power steering. What are your 60 ft times?


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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 10:02 AM
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I don't have A/C or power steering already!!

My 60fts. are normally 1.9-2.0's with the s**ty auto-x slicks
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 10:03 AM
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No need for turbo's just yet!!!
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 10:10 AM
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waht kind of suspension are you running? also do you have any form of traction bars instead of the factory front crossmember?
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 10:14 AM
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My suspension sucks I'll I have right now is the H&R lowering springs I bought the day I got the car for $50 and yes I do have a traction bar for the front end.
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 10:24 AM
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Are you running a stock fuel pump with that 75 shot. If so that pump you have won't keep up on top. My buddy had a 50 shot on a B16 in his 91 hatch and that pump would lean out after 6500 rpms. He ran a 12.5 on gas and a 12.9 on the motor.
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 10:30 AM
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Thanks (skunked) yeah it's whatever fuel pump they put in when they did my swap so I'll have to ask them about that. I'm thinking that's okay because they knew I was running nitrous because they installed it all at the same time.
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 10:31 AM
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You should already be in the 12s. I have ran and tuned similar setups in heavier vehicles and smaller shots of n2o that hit 12.8s and 12.9s consistently.

YOur n2o might not be optimal, meaning jet size, bottle pressure, or it needs to be tuned to its fullest potential. Or you need more time driving.

Hope this helps,

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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 10:34 AM
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I've never had it tuned and was that on drag slicks because my are auto-x slicks and are way to hard from what John @ M&H said.
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 10:38 AM
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So is the motor stock besides NOS?
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 10:41 AM
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I have a STR 68mm throttle body and intake manifold, FPR & guage, STR fuel rail, and STR cam gears but everything else is stock.
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 10:46 AM
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Have yu had it dyno tuned?

If so what numbers did it put down and where was your A/F ratio at?
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 10:50 AM
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gets slicks, get tuned, more practice. should be there by next year. Good luck.
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 10:54 AM
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i say take the 75 shot jets out and crank it up to like a 100 shot and i say 12.50s all day with slick
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 10:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skunked &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Have yu had it dyno tuned?
If so what numbers did it put down and where was your A/F ratio at?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Here's my dyno, Not Tuned just Dyno!!


This was before the Tb, intake manifold, and FPR!!
Also this was when it was at a 55-shot now it's 75-shot!!!


Modified by SadisticRacing at 10:47 AM 11/17/2003
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 11:20 AM
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Throw it on the dyno again, maybe go somewhere else in the bay area that has a A/F reading. I make more power on my stock block NA B16. My buddies put down 225whp on a B16 with a 50 shot at 7800 rpms. I would also recommend making sure your valves are straight and your compression numbers are good.
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 11:24 AM
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They can do the A/F but we just threw it on one day to see what it would do but yeah I'm thinking of doing a V-AFC and tuning session so I'll do compression check at the same time.
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 11:41 AM
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Just remembered that the Dyno was also before I did the custom exhaust so the numbers should be much better now but it's a dry nitrous system also.
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 11:58 AM
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What ECU are you running? We might be able to help you out with the tuning aspect of the car. I would also do a leak down test, it will tell you more then a compression test. Skunked is right though, your car should make more power then that.
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 12:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RedZone &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What ECU are you running? We might be able to help you out with the tuning aspect of the car. I would also do a leak down test, it will tell you more then a compression test. Skunked is right though, your car should make more power then that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Jeremy knows what car I'm talkin about, Ryan AKA Spooge from Sinister. That little B16 loves the juice. Jeremy can hook you up with a program for sure.

Mat
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 12:06 PM
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OBD0 is all I know, I'm new to imports this was my first year racing them. Any help would be great.
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 01:07 PM
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sorry i guess i should reiterate by what i meant by tuning your car. Basically making sure your car is running at optimal conditions. For instance making sure all your basic maintence needs are taken care of, running the right plugs, plug gap, etc.

Also having the right combination of parts. I have experienced with a friends setup the STR manifold is too big for mild setups. Good chance you would of been running faster with the stock intake manifold.

Since you say you are new to this sport, you either should experiment with what you have or pay someone who has already accomplished what you desire. I would highly reccommend the second one especially if your not sure what is in your own car.

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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 01:24 PM
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I was wondering if using 100 octane gas instead of the 91 octane would help it at all? My ecu is a PR3 just went out to check. As for the maintence I change the plugs after every two bottles and yes there gaped right. So you think my bored out stock manifold would be better then the STR manifold right now do to it being stock?

As for me being new to the sport I want to learn that's why I'm here asking questions!!
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