Alaniz, DPR, Portflow Head Work
Looking for Advice....
I have been in contact with several Cylinder head porting companies and Lost as to which one I should go with. I am currently leaning twards DPR due to the time and attention they have spent on my design and set up. Alaniz and Portflow work looks Good and they also carry a good reputation, but I am still unsure of what company to go with. Any help is useful.....
I have been in contact with several Cylinder head porting companies and Lost as to which one I should go with. I am currently leaning twards DPR due to the time and attention they have spent on my design and set up. Alaniz and Portflow work looks Good and they also carry a good reputation, but I am still unsure of what company to go with. Any help is useful.....
Personally, I'd stay away from DPR. Their turnaround time can be horrible.
I sent my last head to Alaniz and was overall happy with the service. They threw away a set of springs I wanted back though.
When I need more work done, I'll take it to RLZ.
I sent my last head to Alaniz and was overall happy with the service. They threw away a set of springs I wanted back though.
When I need more work done, I'll take it to RLZ.
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DPR did my head, and built my motor. I was very happy with the work and the results were great. Dan does really good work, and my stuff was done very quick. He was very helpful before, during and after the build.
http://www.dprracing.com
http://www.dprracing.com
I sent my head to Alaniz and he does amazing work. He will answer any questions over the phone u may have and also has a great turn around time. I visited his place once before and watched him do some port work. He is very meticulous.
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I have no personal experience with DPR, but I have seen a few posts on H-T detailing firsthand experiences that were less than inspiring. Do a search of archived posts with "DPR" as the key word-then decide for yourself. I have dealt with both Alaniz and Portflow, and both do good work.
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Are you refering to the guy who was from some where in south america who was running DPR Head and Cams? I read that post and I was looking at the DPR Cams also and They Scared Me! Maybe he didn't read the warning
http://www.dprracing.com/pages/products/cams.htm
This could have been one cause of his motor explosion..... If they were set by Dan and then changed after he left.
Are you refering to the guy who was from some where in south america who was running DPR Head and Cams? I read that post and I was looking at the DPR Cams also and They Scared Me! Maybe he didn't read the warning
http://www.dprracing.com/pages/products/cams.htm
This could have been one cause of his motor explosion..... If they were set by Dan and then changed after he left.
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Freedom of speech is your constitutional right as a citizen of the United States of America
Freedom of speech is your constitutional right as a citizen of the United States of America
Ive been around in this industry for like almost 9 yrs pretty much the beginning I knoe Dan personally never delt with him but I shure knoe he does do bad buisiness but if u ever talked to the guy you will be impressed on how professional he sounds. Hes already went out of buisiness a few times that should tell you something hes also disappeared with alot of peeps money/stuff just ask anyone in this forum thats been around this industry for along time they will tell you that hes no good. Sure there will always be the loyal customers that he has that believes all his B/S but they dont knoe there just getting boned what can i say hes just a damn liar!
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Why am I not surprised you posted that.
Freedom of speech is your constitutional right as a citizen of the United States of America
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Why am I not surprised you posted that.
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haha
Why am I not surprised you posted that.
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what do you mean by "Bone you", what is you personal experience, if you don't mind me asking.... I am trying to protect myself by sending my head to a good company..... It seems Like someone has been "Boned" by everysingle one of these companies...... So then does it really matter who I send it to since it is still ultimately up to me or my engine builder to;
- clearence the head
- clearence blueprint the engine
- Assembly & Installation
- Tune it properly
So if I screw something up, miss a step, ignore directions/recomendations, don't double check tolerances, such as V to P, Valve Lash, Cam Timing, etc. Is it their fault or mine. I just want to know if something goes wrong, who is to blame.
what do you mean by "Bone you", what is you personal experience, if you don't mind me asking.... I am trying to protect myself by sending my head to a good company..... It seems Like someone has been "Boned" by everysingle one of these companies...... So then does it really matter who I send it to since it is still ultimately up to me or my engine builder to;
- clearence the head
- clearence blueprint the engine
- Assembly & Installation
- Tune it properly
So if I screw something up, miss a step, ignore directions/recomendations, don't double check tolerances, such as V to P, Valve Lash, Cam Timing, etc. Is it their fault or mine. I just want to know if something goes wrong, who is to blame.
Thanks for the advice.... I read your post and it sounds awful.
I was looking at his cams also, and I read the warning on the site
!!! Warning Race Use Only !!!
Due to the aggressive profile of these camshafts, we recomend that they are only tuned by a Professional Engine Tuner that fully understands their limited cam timing adjustment. Failure to comply with these limits may result in Engine Damage or Failure. Please contact us for additional information.
So I contacted him about this warning, His engine builder explained that due to the lobe separation when install at 0 and 0 they can only be separated a max of 5 degrees off of center, before valves collide.
After knowing this and reading your post, I have a few questions as to who is actually at fault.........
Let me get things strait
- The engine was running perfect
- Dan clearenced the pistons and clayed the motor to ensure proper clearence
- Dan set the cam timing
- Your Mechanic Finished the installation
- The timing belt came off due to inproper installation,
- Everything checked OK and the Engine sounded strong
- VTEC Solenoid Worked before and Doesn't Now?
- Mechanic forgot to plug in or mixed up VTEC solenoid plugs!
- Engine never ran in VTEC while Dan was present? For $9000
- Then never ran the Motor until race day to make sure VTEC was working!
I have a couple of thoughts on this..... I am not taking sides, but I am used to watching my ***. I would have paid an extra $300 for Dan to catch a later flight until I saw a Hot Lap. Second It sound Like your mechanic is not very competent. First not setting the tensioner properly, and Second not plugging in, or crossing plugs to the VTEC Solenoid (It wasn't bad.... the motor ran perfect before Dan).
Third if that was my mechanic and he made minor major mistakes like that, there is no way I would let him near the cam timing.... Especially with the sensitive nature of the DPR cams. Say for instance he advanced the intake One degree that could have been enough to send valves colliding. I don't know who to blame but I have blown up motors in the past myself and usually the final finger gets pointed back at my self. If I were you I would start with a new mechanic.
I was looking at his cams also, and I read the warning on the site
!!! Warning Race Use Only !!!
Due to the aggressive profile of these camshafts, we recomend that they are only tuned by a Professional Engine Tuner that fully understands their limited cam timing adjustment. Failure to comply with these limits may result in Engine Damage or Failure. Please contact us for additional information.
So I contacted him about this warning, His engine builder explained that due to the lobe separation when install at 0 and 0 they can only be separated a max of 5 degrees off of center, before valves collide.
After knowing this and reading your post, I have a few questions as to who is actually at fault.........
Let me get things strait
- The engine was running perfect
- Dan clearenced the pistons and clayed the motor to ensure proper clearence
- Dan set the cam timing
- Your Mechanic Finished the installation
- The timing belt came off due to inproper installation,
- Everything checked OK and the Engine sounded strong
- VTEC Solenoid Worked before and Doesn't Now?
- Mechanic forgot to plug in or mixed up VTEC solenoid plugs!
- Engine never ran in VTEC while Dan was present? For $9000
- Then never ran the Motor until race day to make sure VTEC was working!
I have a couple of thoughts on this..... I am not taking sides, but I am used to watching my ***. I would have paid an extra $300 for Dan to catch a later flight until I saw a Hot Lap. Second It sound Like your mechanic is not very competent. First not setting the tensioner properly, and Second not plugging in, or crossing plugs to the VTEC Solenoid (It wasn't bad.... the motor ran perfect before Dan).
Third if that was my mechanic and he made minor major mistakes like that, there is no way I would let him near the cam timing.... Especially with the sensitive nature of the DPR cams. Say for instance he advanced the intake One degree that could have been enough to send valves colliding. I don't know who to blame but I have blown up motors in the past myself and usually the final finger gets pointed back at my self. If I were you I would start with a new mechanic.



