How do I go about puttin a H22 in a crx?

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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 04:51 PM
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Default How do I go about puttin a H22 in a crx?

hey i have a 02 rsx type s and a 95 civic im pickin up a b18 for my civic and gonna sell but im a huge fan of the H and need to know how i need to put it in my crx... Mounts? or what so if you have it done or done this please let me know and if anyone has a 90 to 91 crx si preferably but it doesnt really matter let me know of any for sale also. And the tranny is that cable driven? my buddy said we'd have to cut a hole to set the shifter in the car so the linkage will work curious though ????????
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 04:58 PM
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I'm just telling you know that everyone is going to say search.
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 04:59 PM
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Yeah you're gonna need lots of money to do it.. you should search there are millions of topics on this.. handling issues, money issues, etc.. it's all right there..
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 07:05 PM
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dub ya dub ya dub ya.hasport.com u'll find a little info there. theres a kid running around by me whos parents bought him an h22 crx-******, but yeah it can be done but i bet its a very tight fit
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 07:23 PM
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I think you have to do some cutting in the engine bay.
You should just do a b18c5
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 08:01 PM
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if you dont know what it takes then you should pay someone who does.
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 08:35 PM
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aight a b18c5 is tight but its high compression and i wanna boost the snot out of the h and stroke it to a 2.4 and sleeve the block so i can push some ponies you feel could i do the same for a b18c5 or would it be best to get the type r head with the b20 block basically Im in love with the h but am willing to sacrifice to get the most power
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 09:20 PM
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Good lord use some punctuation!
Its easier to understand Chinese than your posts.
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 03:56 AM
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i know a kid named jason whos got an eg with an h22, hes got the engine out and hes gonna turbo it. he said they hold up to boost pretty well. i can talk to him about it and see what he says.
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 05:58 AM
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people here keep saying
better go with a B18C5 blah blah blah
but they keep forgetting tha H22 combo its around 2200 dollars and its a 200 hp instead of 4500 for the ITR
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 06:19 AM
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imo go with the H. I always wanted to do that in a 4th gen. cheaper than an R, and once its in, its cheaper to replace.
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 06:44 AM
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yeah i found the H for around 2 grand with someperformance mods Id have to buy i bought a j spec d15 for my civic because i blew the motor, it was carburated which was hella weird. My buddy even was surprized but to say all that i found the motor for 11 hundred and the ad ons, my buddy can get stuff 60 precent off retail value because he has a business licence which is sweet, so i will have bigger throttle body, intake manifold injectors ther works basically for 2 grad to 25 hun. What shuold i do about my tranny, should i get a stock tranny and rebuild it with performance stuff or whats the best way to go about that?
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 07:02 AM
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You want to put an H22 in a crx AND put a big turbo on it. It just doesn't make any sense at all to me. After all the fabrication and frame modification you'll be into the project over 10 grand. NOt only that the car would only be good in a straight line IF THAT! Have you thought about wiring, axles, traction, and can we say "UNDERSTEER!".


consider an eg or ek.
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 07:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rice_classic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You want to put an H22 in a crx AND put a big turbo on it. It just doesn't make any sense at all to me. After all the fabrication and frame modification you'll be into the project over 10 grand. NOt only that the car would only be good in a straight line IF THAT! Have you thought about wiring, axles, traction, and can we say "UNDERSTEER!".


consider an eg or ek.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why do people always say that you get understeer. That's so uneducated and ignorant. The B18c is very close to the weight of the H22. It isn't that much lighter at all. Understeer my ***... so damn WRONG.
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 08:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4drEF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Why do people always say that you get understeer. That's so uneducated and ignorant. The B18c is very close to the weight of the H22. It isn't that much lighter at all. Understeer my ***... so damn WRONG.</TD></TR></TABLE>

When I went from a d16 to a b16 my understeer increased. Going and adding over 80 more lbs of weight up front WILL INCREASE UNDERSTEER! And Yes, the H22 is just a bit over 80lbs heavier than the b18c5. It may not seem like it (you'd think.. more weight on the front tire.. more traction) not always the case.

In order to balance out the car to correct this you would have to require the rear end to rotate more easily therefore decreasing "all 4 corner" traction, therefore decreasing track times. Why do you think sport car manufacturers try to get a 50/50 weight displacement?

And PROVE TO ME I'M WRONG! If you increase the weight in the front half of the car then you are GOING TO INCREASE MOMENTUM therefore making it more difficult to turn because the force required to turn the front end is requiring more traction... therefore INCREASING UNDERSTEER!

Sometimes people are right and wrong or both at the same (because of specific situations) but don't run around telling people they are ignorant and uneducation.. you just end up looking like an idiot.
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 09:01 AM
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Shelton.. I do apologize for bickering on your thread.

I have no Idea what you plan on using this car for. If you plan on drag racing than a turboed h22 seems like it would be a killer power plant.

If you do manage to get on in your crx and actually manage to find room enough for a turbo than I take my hat off to ya!

Good luck.
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 10:12 AM
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I didn't say it wouldn't increase understeer. I was commenting on how you said something to the effect that the car would be basicly be useless for anything other than going in a straight line. Why would it be so great in a straight line with all the traction issues it's going to have? It's not only an H22, BUT it's going to be boosted. People with EG's that have H22's can easily break the tires free while cruising in 3rd gear.... and add boost to that?

YES you will need to do some suspension upgrades, brake upgrades... blah blah blah, but it's not going to be any more of a chore than what a B18c does to the car.

EDIT: Basicly tired of reading the posts saying "oh man - H22's are SO heavy! Your going to have SOOOOO much understeer... why don't you just get a B18c?"
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 11:12 AM
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here's a link with a badass h22 crx.... if you want to do it.... do it. but as you will see from the link, you need a lot of fabrication know how, or a good friend that does. hth

http://www.speedapex.com/
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 11:22 AM
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yea, your handeling will go down hill if u add a h22, plus u will have very little if any room in your engine bay if u want to add some type of FI, but good luck with whatever u do
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 11:26 AM
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HAhaha to all those kids that say 2200 vs 4500 for h vs b18c5.. you have to consider the fact you're gonna need over an EXTRA 4500 to put the damn 2200 dollar motor in.. Do you people not read anything on this board? There are constantly people asking questions about h22s in their EFs and never has ANYONE said yes they drop right in.. Silly children should read before sayings stupid things.. understeer.. give me a break.. a couple extra pounds will cause oversteer? For reals?...
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 11:30 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by speeddave &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">here's a link with a badass h22 crx.... if you want to do it.... do it. but as you will see from the link, you need a lot of fabrication know how, or a good friend that does. hth

http://www.speedapex.com/</TD></TR></TABLE>

Doesn't he post on hondatech?
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 03:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NitrousDreamz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you dont know what it takes then you should pay someone who does.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep, there are a lot of things to take into consideration when doing this swap. Like if you run into a problem there is not gonna be a lot of people you can turn to for help. Your also gonna have to fabricate your own hardware for some things, such as engine mounts. If you think you can handle it, go for it. But by know means will it be cheap. Also think about how much room you have in the engine bay, if you have to change your timing belt or clutch, your most likely gonna have to rip the hole engine out. Also a lot of people are talking about steering problems, I myself would not be to worried about that, engine to ground clearance would worry me more. Read up, do some more searches and realize what your getting yourself into.
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 04:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by michaelOlson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Doesn't he post on hondatech?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yup i think he does, i dunno who it is though, but i give him props for doing the swap, his setup should be pretty crazy
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