This kid i know with 00 s2k siad that his car handles just as well as the NSX........
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Re: This kid i know with 00 s2k siad that his car handles just as well as the NSX........ (mrmonk)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrmonk »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i know this is not true how do i prove him wrong?</TD></TR></TABLE>
You don't. Handling is subjective. It's like saying that his car is as nice looking as the NSX.
However, has he ever driven an NSX? If not - and particularly if he has never driven both cars on a racetrack - then he doesn't have the experience needed to make that statement.
You don't. Handling is subjective. It's like saying that his car is as nice looking as the NSX.
However, has he ever driven an NSX? If not - and particularly if he has never driven both cars on a racetrack - then he doesn't have the experience needed to make that statement.
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Re: This kid i know with 00 s2k siad that his car handles just as well as the NSX........ (nsxtasy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You don't. Handling is subjective. It's like saying that his car is as nice looking as the NSX.
However, has he ever driven an NSX? If not - and particularly if he has never driven both cars on a racetrack - then he doesn't have the experience needed to make that statement.
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The NSX c4n n3v4r l0se!
What a dillweed. NSX>S2K.
You don't. Handling is subjective. It's like saying that his car is as nice looking as the NSX.
However, has he ever driven an NSX? If not - and particularly if he has never driven both cars on a racetrack - then he doesn't have the experience needed to make that statement.
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The NSX c4n n3v4r l0se!
What a dillweed. NSX>S2K.
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Re: This kid i know with 00 s2k siad that his car handles just as well as the NSX........ (mrmonk)
Let me help you, he is right. When you compare the 1996 NSX ( .89g and 63.0mph ) to the '01 S2K ( .90g and 65.9mph ) the S2K wins easily. http://www.fast-autos.net/index.html this is the sight I got the info from and they seem legit and when you factor in the that most people who have more money than brains ( which is a lot of NSX owners unfourtunatly 
) don't know how to drive a mid engine high performance vehicle the S2K will win out more often than not. sorry to burst your bubble
) don't know how to drive a mid engine high performance vehicle the S2K will win out more often than not. sorry to burst your bubble
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Re: This kid i know with 00 s2k siad that his car handles just as well as the NSX........ (dohcsiguy
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcsiguy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Let me help you, he is right. When you compare the 1996 NSX ( .89g and 63.0mph ) to the '01 S2K ( .90g and 65.9mph ) the S2K wins easily. http://www.fast-autos.net/index.html this is the sight I got the info from and they seem legit and when you factor in the that most people who have more money than brains ( which is a lot of NSX owners unfourtunatly ) don't know how to drive a mid engine high performance vehicle the S2K will win out more often than not. sorry to burst your bubble</TD></TR></TABLE>
LMAO!
If I may paraphrase a line from a movie... "I can't even begin to think about knowing how to refute to your statements."
) don't know how to drive a mid engine high performance vehicle the S2K will win out more often than not. sorry to burst your bubble</TD></TR></TABLE>LMAO!
If I may paraphrase a line from a movie... "I can't even begin to think about knowing how to refute to your statements."
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Re: This kid i know with 00 s2k siad that his car handles just as well as the NSX........ (dohcsiguy
Okay, I stopped laughing long enough to reply:1) 0.90G > 0.89G??? You can't seriously think a difference (0.01G) equal to the resolution (0.01G) of a measurement means anything.
2) It does not even matter, because there is a lot more to handling than steady-state lateral acceleration and time thru a slalom. Refer to nsxtasy's post, above.
3) Why did you choose a 1996 NSX(-T), the slowest and worse handling of all NSX models (1995 is the same)?
4) I suppose #3 does not matter since your source is not realiable. Take a look at the specs. They got everything wrong.
5) We are comparing cars, not drivers (duh). Why throw other factors into equation?
6) Holy cow! I just noticed you're 28!?!
And I thought I was replying to a 14-year old. Man, lay off the paint chips.Modified by ojas at 2:53 AM 11/11/2003
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Re: This kid i know with 00 s2k siad that his car handles just as well as the NSX........ (dohcsiguy
Hmph...from those numbers you could certainly infer that the S2K is a better handler than an NSX, though you'd be doing a disservice by not presenting all of the factors involved in making a determination.
http://www.kent.k12.wa.us/staf....html
The above is a good link to understand what I'm talking about. And if I remember correctly, a '91 NSX did a .93g on the skidpad (some magazine article). In any case, both cars handle extremely well.
http://www.kent.k12.wa.us/staf....html
The above is a good link to understand what I'm talking about. And if I remember correctly, a '91 NSX did a .93g on the skidpad (some magazine article). In any case, both cars handle extremely well.
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Re: This kid i know with 00 s2k siad that his car handles just as well as the NSX........ (dohcsiguy
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcsiguy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Let me help you, he is right. When you compare the 1996 NSX ( .89g and 63.0mph ) to the '01 S2K ( .90g and 65.9mph ) the S2K wins easily. http://www.fast-autos.net/index.html this is the sight I got the info from and they seem legit and when you factor in the that most people who have more money than brains ( which is a lot of NSX owners unfourtunatly ) don't know how to drive a mid engine high performance vehicle the S2K will win out more often than not. sorry to burst your bubble</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sounds like you've never driven both cars, either.
In fact, since you apparently think that skidpad and slalom numbers are totally objective and complete measures of handling, I bet you've never driven any car on the track (a real track, not a dragstrip)...
) don't know how to drive a mid engine high performance vehicle the S2K will win out more often than not. sorry to burst your bubble</TD></TR></TABLE>Sounds like you've never driven both cars, either.
In fact, since you apparently think that skidpad and slalom numbers are totally objective and complete measures of handling, I bet you've never driven any car on the track (a real track, not a dragstrip)...
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Re: This kid i know with 00 s2k siad that his car handles just as well as the NSX........ (dohcsiguy
P.S. For a direct comparison between the S2000 and the NSX, click here.
The article includes the following quote: "the mid-engine Acura was able to click off faster lap times around Thunderhill than the S: a testament to the NSX's exceptional handling balance."
The article includes the following quote: "the mid-engine Acura was able to click off faster lap times around Thunderhill than the S: a testament to the NSX's exceptional handling balance."
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Re: This kid i know with 00 s2k siad that his car handles just as well as the NSX........ (nsxtasy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You don't. Handling is subjective. It's like saying that his car is as nice looking as the NSX.
However, has he ever driven an NSX? If not - and particularly if he has never driven both cars on a racetrack - then he doesn't have the experience needed to make that statement.
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Handling is very subjective, and depends mainly on the driver. I've seen a POS rusted out 91 Civic Hatch with a D15B7 and DUAL POINT fuel injector lay the spank down on porshes, s2000s, Evos etc etc, on an autox course. Handling involves the driver ability to 1. know his/her car and 2. knowing how to driver, be it on the street or track.
If the two cars were driven by Robots then the NSX should surely win. Do you see any Robot drivers?
You don't. Handling is subjective. It's like saying that his car is as nice looking as the NSX.
However, has he ever driven an NSX? If not - and particularly if he has never driven both cars on a racetrack - then he doesn't have the experience needed to make that statement.
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Handling is very subjective, and depends mainly on the driver. I've seen a POS rusted out 91 Civic Hatch with a D15B7 and DUAL POINT fuel injector lay the spank down on porshes, s2000s, Evos etc etc, on an autox course. Handling involves the driver ability to 1. know his/her car and 2. knowing how to driver, be it on the street or track.
If the two cars were driven by Robots then the NSX should surely win. Do you see any Robot drivers?
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Re: This kid i know with 00 s2k siad that his car handles just as well as the NSX........ (TommyV)
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Sure ya do. Why do you think Honda invented Asimo?
Sure ya do. Why do you think Honda invented Asimo?
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Re: This kid i know with 00 s2k siad that his car handles just as well as the NSX........ (dohcsiguy
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ojas »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Okay, I stopped laughing long enough to reply:
1) 0.90G > 0.89G??? You can't seriously think a difference (0.01G) equal to the resolution (0.01G) of a measurement means anything.
2) It does not even matter, because there is a lot more to handling than steady-state lateral acceleration and time thru a slalom. Refer to nsxtasy's post, above.
3) Why did you choose a 1996 NSX(-T), the slowest and worse handling of all NSX models (1995 is the same)?
4) I suppose #3 does not matter since your source is not realiable. Take a look at the specs. They got everything wrong.
5) We are comparing cars, not drivers (duh). Why throw other factors into equation?
6) Holy cow! I just noticed you're 28!?! And I thought I was replying to a 14-year old. Man, lay off the paint chips.
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Thank you for that, for a minute there I thought I had gotten away from the clubsi responses. My point of the entire response is to prove that the you can make the numbers say anything you want. There is a lot more to handling than just numbers,like how late you can brake into a corner and still turn, transient response, acceleration out of the corners etc. Don't think for one minute that just because I found a site that says one thing means I belive the S2k is a better car. BTW how did you know I eat paint chips?
Okay, I stopped laughing long enough to reply:1) 0.90G > 0.89G??? You can't seriously think a difference (0.01G) equal to the resolution (0.01G) of a measurement means anything.
2) It does not even matter, because there is a lot more to handling than steady-state lateral acceleration and time thru a slalom. Refer to nsxtasy's post, above.
3) Why did you choose a 1996 NSX(-T), the slowest and worse handling of all NSX models (1995 is the same)?
4) I suppose #3 does not matter since your source is not realiable. Take a look at the specs. They got everything wrong.
5) We are comparing cars, not drivers (duh). Why throw other factors into equation?
6) Holy cow! I just noticed you're 28!?!
And I thought I was replying to a 14-year old. Man, lay off the paint chips.Modified by ojas at 2:53 AM 11/11/2003</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thank you for that, for a minute there I thought I had gotten away from the clubsi responses. My point of the entire response is to prove that the you can make the numbers say anything you want. There is a lot more to handling than just numbers,like how late you can brake into a corner and still turn, transient response, acceleration out of the corners etc. Don't think for one minute that just because I found a site that says one thing means I belive the S2k is a better car. BTW how did you know I eat paint chips?
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Re: This kid i know with 00 s2k siad that his car handles just as well as the NSX........ (dohcsiguy
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Sounds like you've never driven both cars, either.
In fact, since you apparently think that skidpad and slalom numbers are totally objective and complete measures of handling, I bet you've never driven any car on the track (a real track, not a dragstrip)...
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First off in any part of my response did you see me referring to my personl experience....NO. Magizines are the best resourses for those of us who don't have the money or the connections to drive these types of cars ( mostly speaking ofthe NSX ) so when you someone talking about this magizine article or that magizine article don't get all dick hurt because the numbers say something that you didn't want to hear. The one thing most people miss out on in reading numbers is the actual article written by the test driver, experienced people who are paid to write a subjective response to their driving experience of the car in question ( in this case an NSX and S2K ). So in sumation...... shut up!
Sounds like you've never driven both cars, either.
In fact, since you apparently think that skidpad and slalom numbers are totally objective and complete measures of handling, I bet you've never driven any car on the track (a real track, not a dragstrip)...
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First off in any part of my response did you see me referring to my personl experience....NO. Magizines are the best resourses for those of us who don't have the money or the connections to drive these types of cars ( mostly speaking ofthe NSX ) so when you someone talking about this magizine article or that magizine article don't get all dick hurt because the numbers say something that you didn't want to hear. The one thing most people miss out on in reading numbers is the actual article written by the test driver, experienced people who are paid to write a subjective response to their driving experience of the car in question ( in this case an NSX and S2K ). So in sumation...... shut up!
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Re: This kid i know with 00 s2k siad that his car handles just as well as the NSX........ (dohcsiguy
O>>>M>>>>G!
Okay, who's been peeing in the gene pool again?!
So, this guys purpose was to lay out misinformation in the hopes that we would see the correlation between his information and the other? For what purpose?
I thought Ken and I were the king magazine racers? lol
Okay, who's been peeing in the gene pool again?!
So, this guys purpose was to lay out misinformation in the hopes that we would see the correlation between his information and the other? For what purpose?
I thought Ken and I were the king magazine racers? lol
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Re: This kid i know with 00 s2k siad that his car handles just as well as the NSX........ (dohcsiguy
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Okay, who's been peeing in the gene pool again?!
So, this guys purpose was to lay out misinformation in the hopes that we would see the correlation between his information and the other? For what purpose?
I thought Ken and I were the king magazine racers? lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
Tell me again how I am laying down misinformation when I provided you with the link where I found it? Just because you don't put a or a "lol" at the end of every smart remark doesn't mean you're not being sarcastic, settle!
Okay, who's been peeing in the gene pool again?!
So, this guys purpose was to lay out misinformation in the hopes that we would see the correlation between his information and the other? For what purpose?
I thought Ken and I were the king magazine racers? lol
</TD></TR></TABLE>Tell me again how I am laying down misinformation when I provided you with the link where I found it? Just because you don't put a
or a "lol" at the end of every smart remark doesn't mean you're not being sarcastic, settle!
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Re: This kid i know with 00 s2k siad that his car handles just as well as the NSX........ (dohcsiguy
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Okay, who's been peeing in the gene pool again?!
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You mean to say that wasn't the neighbor's pool? oops.....
Okay, who's been peeing in the gene pool again?!
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You mean to say that wasn't the neighbor's pool? oops.....
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Re: This kid i know with 00 s2k siad that his car handles just as well as the NSX........ (dohcsiguy
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Thank you for that, for a minute there I thought I had gotten away from the clubsi responses. My point of the entire response is to prove that the you can make the numbers say anything you want. There is a lot more to handling than just numbers,like how late you can brake into a corner and still turn, transient response, acceleration out of the corners etc. Don't think for one minute that just because I found a site that says one thing means I belive the S2k is a better car. BTW how did you know I eat paint chips?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Tell me again how I am laying down misinformation when I provided you with the link where I found it? Just because you don't put a or a "lol" at the end of every smart remark doesn't mean you're not being sarcastic, settle!</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think the contention is that you are ambigious enough to pull random thoughts out of your post nullifying the point of your original argument. In effect, you're saying, "Oh, I was just kidding" or "Oh yeah, I change my mind." If that isn't your intention, you need to be a better communicator.
No offense but it seems you're pushing a bad argument when a simple "Good point" would be more respectable.
Thank you for that, for a minute there I thought I had gotten away from the clubsi responses. My point of the entire response is to prove that the you can make the numbers say anything you want. There is a lot more to handling than just numbers,like how late you can brake into a corner and still turn, transient response, acceleration out of the corners etc. Don't think for one minute that just because I found a site that says one thing means I belive the S2k is a better car. BTW how did you know I eat paint chips?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Tell me again how I am laying down misinformation when I provided you with the link where I found it? Just because you don't put a
or a "lol" at the end of every smart remark doesn't mean you're not being sarcastic, settle!</TD></TR></TABLE>I think the contention is that you are ambigious enough to pull random thoughts out of your post nullifying the point of your original argument. In effect, you're saying, "Oh, I was just kidding" or "Oh yeah, I change my mind." If that isn't your intention, you need to be a better communicator.
No offense but it seems you're pushing a bad argument when a simple "Good point" would be more respectable.
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Re: This kid i know with 00 s2k siad that his car handles just as well as the NSX........ (dohcsiguy
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I think the contention is that you are ambigious enough to pull random thoughts out of your post nullifying the point of your original argument. In effect, you're saying, "Oh, I was just kidding" or "Oh yeah, I change my mind." If that isn't your intention, you need to be a better communicator.
No offense but it seems you're pushing a bad argument when a simple "Good point" would be more respectable.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I didn't realize that i was trying to argue a bad point I just figured that stating the facts found from a reliable internet testing source. The intention at first was to prove that an S2K (of the right year) could ( by the NUMBERS ) out handle an NSX ( of the right year ). The only handleing numbers I could find for the NSX was a '96 model which as it turns out is not one of the better handleing models that were produced ( all the information was in this link http://www.fast-autos.net/index.html ). I guess I need to be a little more through with my point
I think the contention is that you are ambigious enough to pull random thoughts out of your post nullifying the point of your original argument. In effect, you're saying, "Oh, I was just kidding" or "Oh yeah, I change my mind." If that isn't your intention, you need to be a better communicator.
No offense but it seems you're pushing a bad argument when a simple "Good point" would be more respectable.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I didn't realize that i was trying to argue a bad point I just figured that stating the facts found from a reliable internet testing source. The intention at first was to prove that an S2K (of the right year) could ( by the NUMBERS ) out handle an NSX ( of the right year ). The only handleing numbers I could find for the NSX was a '96 model which as it turns out is not one of the better handleing models that were produced ( all the information was in this link http://www.fast-autos.net/index.html ). I guess I need to be a little more through with my point
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Re: This kid i know with 00 s2k siad that his car handles just as well as the NSX........ (dohcsiguy
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Just because a car can pull better skidpad and/or slalom numbers doesn't mean that it handles better.
Just because a car can pull better skidpad and/or slalom numbers doesn't mean that it handles better.
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Re: This kid i know with 00 s2k siad that his car handles just as well as the NSX........ (dohcsiguy
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Just because a car can pull better skidpad and/or slalom numbers doesn't mean that it handles better.
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Suddenly, the heavens parted and angels sang. Once again, in the murky world of uninformative internet sites and "correction factors," the world makes sense again.
Sidebar: MIT students created a G machine by placing high powered vaccums on a go-kart with a hovercraft style skirt around it. It pulled 4.6 g's. It would still be WAY behind the NSX though, it only had 5hp......Much like the "S."
Just because a car can pull better skidpad and/or slalom numbers doesn't mean that it handles better.
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Suddenly, the heavens parted and angels sang. Once again, in the murky world of uninformative internet sites and "correction factors," the world makes sense again.
Sidebar: MIT students created a G machine by placing high powered vaccums on a go-kart with a hovercraft style skirt around it. It pulled 4.6 g's. It would still be WAY behind the NSX though, it only had 5hp......Much like the "S."
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Re: This kid i know with 00 s2k siad that his car handles just as well as the NSX........ (ojas)
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Sure ya do. Why do you think Honda invented Asimo?
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Re: This kid i know with 00 s2k siad that his car handles just as well as the NSX........ (RaVAGE00)
Jeez, I couldn't tell!
<== was wondering what the dealio was with Ojas' post and is now just showing he really isn't Mensa material.
<== was wondering what the dealio was with Ojas' post and is now just showing he really isn't Mensa material.
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