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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 04:54 AM
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I have a gude cam and my valves have a 3 angle valve job done, but i have stock springs and retainers. Will I get valve float if I eliminate my rev limiter and try to find out where this cam stops pulling. The cam is making power into redline but I was wondering what will happen if I take it up.
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 08:02 AM
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Yes. Your factory valve train is suited for factory cam and redline. You add an aftermarket cam sometimes you can get away with factory valvetrain up to redline. If you plan on going past the factory redline or adding high lift cams factory valvetrain is a must. Depends on the specs of the cam really.
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 08:35 AM
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YES you will float.like Mr Milano said stock springs are made for stock cams,I doubt they will hold up to the more agressive ramps on the cams you installed.
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 12:44 PM
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What are some cheap aftermarker springs and retainers for the D15B7? Anybody know?
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 01:29 PM
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contact rocket if you have questions on the d series springs
http://ef-1.zeroforum.com/zeroforum?id=9

and i believe exospeed sells d series springs as well
https://honda-tech.com/zero...05355

from what i remember rocket telling me is that the d springs are better designed compared to the b motors. so you can let it rev up more compared to if it were a bseries spring

hope that helps
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 03:40 PM
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You have SOHC VTEC or SOHC NonVTEC?

The SOHC VTEC springs are good to 9k with stock cams. Not sure how radical the Gude cam is.
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Old Nov 8, 2003 | 06:34 AM
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I have SOHC non vtec, would the springs for the vtec fit my car? The gude cam has a lot of lift. I take my car to redline regularly with stock springs so I know nothing bad has happened yet.
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Old Nov 8, 2003 | 06:43 AM
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what is the definition of valve float? i can see you don't make power but why?
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Old Nov 8, 2003 | 06:59 AM
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Valve Float is when you are revving the car up and because the valves have to pulse in and out so quickly, sometimes the stock valve springs can't get them out of the combustion chamber quick enough and they "float" and get a little kiss from a piston.
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Old Nov 8, 2003 | 07:01 AM
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also, I don't make power because the big lift on my cam has pushed the power band up my RPM range, thus, I'm still making power through redline so I need valve springs that can take me there too.
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Old Nov 8, 2003 | 07:02 AM
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You don't make power because your valves are in limbo so to speak, and never fully close..

They are "floating" because the cam is either spinning so fast, or has such a radical profile that the springs can't keep up, and the valve-train loses contact with the cam..

I'm sure someone has a more technical explaination then that, but basically that is all vavle float is.
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Old Nov 8, 2003 | 04:02 PM
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I dont know why you explained valve float again after I did but whatever. Why the heck are aftermarket springs so freaking much? $300?!
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 05:12 PM
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how do you know if your valves are floating? i wanna hear everyone's opinion on this!
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 05:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D15B7turbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have SOHC non vtec, would the springs for the vtec fit my car? The gude cam has a lot of lift. I take my car to redline regularly with stock springs so I know nothing bad has happened yet.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Nope. DVTEC springs are to long for DnonVTEC.
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