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Nov 4, 2003 | 04:08 PM

youngvedder

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SMS Products Header

Hey Guys,

curious to see what makes these header(s) so good? Anyone have pictures?

Thanks,

YV

Nov 4, 2003 | 04:30 PM

ArinX

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Re: SMS Products Header (youngvedder)

Nov 4, 2003 | 04:38 PM

h22John

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Re: SMS Products Header (youngvedder)

see in those pics how far away from the head the collector will be? thats a big reason why...also the primaries are matched properly to the cylinders and the primaries are very long....basically theres less packaging compromises. also the craftsmanship is wonderful. peace

Nov 4, 2003 | 05:26 PM

emissionsux

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Re: SMS Products Header (youngvedder)

Anyone know how much the SMS head goes for?

Nov 4, 2003 | 08:22 PM

3rdGteg

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Re: SMS Products Header (emissionsux)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by emissionsux »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyone know how much the SMS head goes for?</TD></TR></TABLE>Yeah anyone? Even Dave himself won't quote me a price

Nov 4, 2003 | 10:19 PM

HKJ

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Re: SMS Products Header (emissionsux)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyone know how much the SMS head goes for?</TD></TR></TABLE>
an arm

Nov 4, 2003 | 10:51 PM

Chemicalviper

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Its a stepped design.

Also notice how the header is on the bed ... he personally sleeps with each header - it makes them that good

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Nov 5, 2003 | 04:38 AM

sircrxracer

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Re: (Chemicalviper)

How much for the side exit header cheaper or more$$$ anyone know???

Nov 5, 2003 | 07:10 AM

CHEETAH

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Re: (sircrxracer)

I have a side exit SMS header for sale, its for a 2.0 liter high compression motor. I have pics on my site, http://www.gbrtuning.com for sale section

Greg

Nov 5, 2003 | 07:14 AM

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lsvtec hatch05

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pics don't work for me, that makes me mad

Nov 5, 2003 | 07:20 AM

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2point6

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Re: (lsvtec hatch05)

I know this post is reguarding the B series SMSP header, but...

I just dynoed the SMSP #3 prototype H22a header on my car last night. This header combined with fuel tuning on my built engine made gains over its previously identicle set-up and the SMSP #1 prototype. I am looking foreward to adding the production run header since it flows even better than the on I have.

Dyno: With the #1 prototype I was making 229.6 WHP and 172 WTQ.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=668965

Nov 5, 2003 | 08:20 AM

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juicedh22

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Re: (2point6)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2point6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
ALL MOTOR ACCORD
247.7 WHP 182.4WTQ</TD></TR></TABLE>

I wish I had your engine

Nov 5, 2003 | 08:33 AM

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Re: (2point6)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2point6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">247.7 WHP 182.4WTQ
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Id like to point out that this motor is still running a stock OEM Euro Accord Type R IM... Switch to a a decent IM like the RLZ IM or maybe even set of ITB's and that motor will put up even higher numbers... Theres still alot more HP waiting to be extracted from that motor

Nov 5, 2003 | 08:34 AM

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2point6

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Re: (RS_H22)

Also I was on 91 octane...

Nov 5, 2003 | 12:58 PM

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Re: (2point6)

2point6 you gained 17whp from switching to the smsp header?

Nov 5, 2003 | 01:03 PM

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2point6

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Re: (goforbroke)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by goforbroke »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">2point6 you gained 17whp from switching to the smsp header?</TD></TR></TABLE> You can say that... Also fuel and ignition tuning also contributed.

Nov 5, 2003 | 01:05 PM

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2point6

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Re: (RS_H22)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RS_H22 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Id like to point out that this motor is still running a stock OEM Euro Accord Type R IM... Switch to a a decent IM like the RLZ IM or maybe even set of ITB's and that motor will put up even higher numbers... Theres still alot more HP waiting to be extracted from that motor</TD></TR></TABLE>

Anyone want to donate some ITB's for a test?

Nov 5, 2003 | 01:06 PM

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2point6

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Re: (juicedh22)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by juicedh22 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I wish I had your engine

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Got a hot girlfriend? Maybe we will trade...lol.

Nov 5, 2003 | 01:11 PM

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.derf.

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headers look sexy lying on the bed like that..lol just kidding

Nov 5, 2003 | 01:32 PM

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juicedh22

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Re: (2point6)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2point6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Got a hot girlfriend? Maybe we will trade...lol.

</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea, as a matter of fact I do... she is a cheerleader and a dance instructor too

I will trade you straight up!

Nov 5, 2003 | 01:34 PM

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2point6

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Re: (juicedh22)

LOL... send pics... OK I will stop before I get banned for jacking this thread. SORRY GUYS.

Nov 6, 2003 | 05:53 PM

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridKOOPHRI »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">headers look sexy lying on the bed like that..lol just kidding</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol i bet the owner did "sleep" with it

haha

Nov 6, 2003 | 05:55 PM

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Re: (TypeR 599)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TypeR 599 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

lol i bet the owner did "sleep" with it

haha </TD></TR></TABLE>

I slipped it in while the owner wasnt looking

Nov 7, 2003 | 04:39 AM

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sircrxracer

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Re: (CHEETAH)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CHEETAH »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a side exit SMS header for sale, its for a 2.0 liter high compression motor. I have pics on my site, http://www.gbrtuning.com for sale section

Greg</TD></TR></TABLE>
Damm I wish I had the money!!! what size of piping on that bad boy? and are they the same size on the 1.8 version? Rob