I have read alot of posts where the keys can be made with just a VIN well...

I was at the dealer (checking up on my caR) and saw this:
It does make me feel a tad better but still worried some.

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Modified by Bbasso at 11:50 AM 11/18/2003

 

It's about ******* time. Hopefully the west coast does the same thing. Good post!

 

Nice. I wonder if people will listen though

 

Maybe you guys should print that out and bring it to your local dealers to help us out?

 

It will only work if the dealership and employees enforce it.

And unfortunately for the right price, a shady character at a dealership can gain access to them. I had my copies made at Curry Acura in Scarsdale awhile ago. And YES they asked for my license, and reg card when they saw it was for a DC2.

But, I get your point Rob, at least Someone is starting to take car theft a bit more seriously and is working to make it harder for the waste of life crooks.

 

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Hope for the best but expect the worst.

Instead of just duping the dealership (they should've been asking for proof of ownership anyway), they'll [thieves] will just bribe someone at a less than reputable dealership to have keys made or something. Unless someone can track who made duplicate keys, that letter is just something that confirms our suspicions.

 

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Well, I never go to my dealership now that they only sell RSX oil filters.

 

The notice really won't help if it's an inside job though. And unfortunately most of the time it is an inside job.

Fugg all those piece of **** dealership idiots.

 

It's a very small step in the right direction, but it needs to be more than a request.

 

wouldn't it suck even worse if a thief WORKED at the dealership? there's gotta be some inside jobs here and there

 

My dealer cannot track my key, code, and even radio code with my VIN. My car got shipped to me straight from the dock to my hand with no dealer in the middle to get all the info, even the one i bought it from. it's a long story but the dealer even asked me to give them the info and I said no.

 

just go buy a new lock set from the dealer. it comes with a new lock and key. then replace all the locks on your car. so when someone make a key for your car by using the vin it will not work on your car.

 

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or buy them from someone parting a wrecked chassis, maybe even have a different key for the ignition and a different key for the doors.

however, after locking my key in my car a few months ago and calling on AAA to come open it, i realize that if a theif wants to get in your car it is not a big deal for them to do so. be smart about where you park a modified car.

 

Wow, I'm gonna cover up my VIN everytime I park. Thanks for posting

 

i was thinking about that and how it just leaves the door open for thieves

 

Just a note for some people that choose to cover their VIN. I also cover my VIN, but the last time I got pulled over for no plate, the cop also wrote me up for covered VIN.

Yes it is illegal to cover your VIN. I couldn't believe it either. Maybe it's only in Cali, but I would check with your local authorities.

 

yes it is illegal. But it's piece of mind though. If you ever do get pulled over, you can alway yank it out for that time, only if you remember under the pressure of being pulled over, hopefully for something not too too bad....

-Victor

 

Though i did not read every post in here... i think what they mean by "covering" your VIN is more towards a permenant fixture - not like a piece of paper that could easily be removed like I have on my drivers side dashboard VIN location.
I'm sure if someone got sited for covering thier VIN (on the dashboard) with a piece of paper (or something removable) and presented the theft issue to a judge on your court date... the judge "should" have some common sence and understand the car owners perspective to help prevent theft of his or her car by covering the VIN with something easily removable for the few times that it realy NEEDS to be seen.

 

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Yes, I think you've hit the nail on the head, there.

The fact of the matter is that no dealership can hold onto the very best mechanics, since they get promoted or get out into the business world, or they are eventually disgusted at the environment, and in consequence of that we just don't find the very best of moral fibre at most dealerships.

I'm afraid it's just a fact of life.

 

I think it was dateline NBC that did a show on that topic recently. They took the VIN number from cars in parking lots (with the owner's knowledge), went to the respective dealers and posed as inocent citizens who locked their keys in their car. Several service employees asked for ID but when the undercover reporters said they didn't have their ID, just the VIN #. The dealer employees went ahead and made them keys anyway. These were several different dealers, including either a Honda or Acura, or both but I can't remember exactly.

The employees said something like, I am not supposed to make a key without your ID but I'll make an exception, blah blah...

The reporters went back later and showed them the video they took and comfronted them about it, saying that they were not the owners of the cars they asked keys for. The response from the dealer employees was something like, it looked like you were in a bind and I wanted to help, etc. A detective they interviewed later said that, most thieves would 'look inocent' just like the reporters. Hopefully that report alarmed dealers to a greater extent as well.

 

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Hope for the best but expect the worst.

Instead of just duping the dealership (they should've been asking for proof of ownership anyway), they'll [thieves] will just bribe someone at a less than reputable dealership to have keys made or something. Unless someone can track who made duplicate keys, that letter is just something that confirms our suspicions.</TD></TR></TABLE>

We are all doomed in NY

 

DC2 owners should find a buddy and swap keys and locks so their VINS won't match their door locks.

Maybe swap the ECUs (like models) if the ECU immobilizer follows the keys.

Cheap and relatively easy.

 

We have been doing this at the Honda dealership I work at for about a year. You have to have your drivers license and the registration to have a key made. The parts guys will not make you one without having the two forums.

 

I was just thinking with all the New R owners I would bring this back to the top. Just be sure to safe gaurd your caRs

 

hmm.. im not an R owner, but i wouldnt mind printing this out and taking it to the 2 dealerships nearby.