Official 5lug swap onto EP3: What fits and what doesnt?

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Nov 3, 2003 | 04:46 PM

migs

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Official 5lug swap onto EP3: What fits and what doesnt?

Please make this a central thread for all the "what fits and what doesnt" instead of "dont waste your money" thread.

If I were to buy FULL DC5R suspension and brakes w/ wheels, will it fit directly on my USDM EP? From what it seems, it seems as if it would fit but a friend of mine told me otherwise?

I do not want to just upgrade to the later style EP 5lug (wanna be), I want to use the RSX/Integra chassis components for better braking and the 17" DC5R wheels.

Nov 3, 2003 | 08:04 PM

keithg

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Re: Official 5lug swap onto EP3: What fits and what doesnt? (Migs)

Yes, if you buy the full suspension and brakes from the dc5 it will fit the ep3. I did it to my car 18 months ago and If I remember correctly, the only other part I needed was dc5 tie rod ends for the rack and pinion. Go for the DC5-R parts if you can afford it for the red Brembo front calipers.

Nov 4, 2003 | 09:37 AM

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Re: Official 5lug swap onto EP3: What fits and what doesnt? (keithg)

http://www.k-series.com/tech_d..._CONV

Nov 4, 2003 | 09:43 AM

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Re: Official 5lug swap onto EP3: What fits and what doesnt?

I'll sticky this for a few days so as to help reduce reposts in the future...

Nov 4, 2003 | 03:30 PM

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Re: Official 5lug swap onto EP3: What fits and what doesnt? (B18CXr)

Why not use the 04 Si's 5-lug? Wouldn't it be cheaper..albeit not being as good as the R's but still.

Nov 4, 2003 | 05:40 PM

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Re: Official 5lug swap onto EP3: What fits and what doesnt? (Blk02EP)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blk02EP »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why not use the 04 Si's 5-lug? Wouldn't it be cheaper..albeit not being as good as the R's but still. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I think you just answered your own question...

Nov 5, 2003 | 04:21 PM

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Re: Official 5lug swap onto EP3: What fits and what doesnt? (Migs)

I have them on my EP3.

http://www.ephatch.com/forum/s...16619

To further the info in the above post.

You need the DCR-5 Front sway bar ! The DC5 Hubs insert 15mm ( I belive it's been a while) of positive offest. This increases that track of the car. With 45 offset rims they stick out too much. The DC5-R rims have an offset of 50. I am going to try them on my car this weeked. I still think they will stick out too much. We will see.

Derek of JMI

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Nov 7, 2003 | 11:45 AM

Saga

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Re: Official 5lug swap onto EP3: What fits and what doesnt? (JMI)

DC5-R rims = +60. That's why +45 rims stick out way too much.

Nov 7, 2003 | 04:55 PM

JMI

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+ 60 wow I read they were 50. I have two of comming this weekend. If they fit I'l be geting my partner to bring me back a set. Teh two I have curb rash.

Nov 8, 2003 | 12:05 PM

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i converted to 5 lug using base rsx parts but still using the stock si calipers.

by the way i used H&R 15mm Spacer for the DC5R wheels

Nov 8, 2003 | 05:21 PM

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Re: (RacerDre)

God I love your EP

Makes me really want one.

Nov 10, 2003 | 10:59 AM

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Re: (RacerDre)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RacerDre »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i converted to 5 lug using base rsx parts but still using the stock si calipers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so basically the 5 lug was for looks? Cause the stock Si brakes are pretty much crap...

Nov 10, 2003 | 12:46 PM

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Re: (zer0zer0 TypeR)

"Pretty much crap" would be a compliment

Nov 10, 2003 | 01:07 PM

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pretty much for looks. more of the larger quality wheels only come in 5 lug.

Nov 10, 2003 | 03:59 PM

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Re: (zer0zer0 TypeR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zer0zer0 TypeR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

so basically the 5 lug was for looks? Cause the stock Si brakes are pretty much crap...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why are they crap? What is it that you personally do that overwhelms them?

I put Axxis Ultimate pads all the way around on my otherwise 'stock' EP3 brakes and the car stops great.

Nov 10, 2003 | 07:21 PM

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I will be honest, for the most part, I will do this swap for looks only. Another reason is because I want to interchange wheels from my DC2 to my EP3 to my DC2.

Nov 11, 2003 | 03:31 PM

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Re: (Migs)

5 lug is stronger too... don't forget u have an extra lug holding ur wheel in

Nov 11, 2003 | 10:01 PM

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Re: (zeroryde)

you also have an extra hole or two drilled through the hub on the wheel...

Nov 12, 2003 | 05:02 PM

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zeroryde »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">5 lug is stronger too... don't forget u have an extra lug holding ur wheel in</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nov 13, 2003 | 04:48 PM

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Nov 14, 2003 | 03:29 PM

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Re: (INTEGRA TYPE S)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by INTEGRA TYPE S »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

cant forget better brake options

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That's what it would ultimately come down to for me. If I were to do a 5-lug swap, it would be for better/optimal brake combo options. There seems to be a bigger/somewhat better selection for 5-lugs than for 4.

Nov 16, 2003 | 07:22 AM

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Re: (INTEGRA TYPE S)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by INTEGRA TYPE S »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

cant forget better brake options

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And better brake physics, you have an extra lug to spared the weight of the car stopping.
*where's that Sherlock pic now*

Nov 17, 2003 | 12:27 PM

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Re: (skamal)

I don't know why honda just didn't make the EP3 5-Lug from the factory. They should have known better than to put 4-Lug on that car. Whats wrong with them?