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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 06:52 PM
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Default Anyone have a CTR AKA: B16b swap?

Anyone have one off those.. in like a HATCH?

if you have do you have any feedbacks I am thinking about going that route

I have a good deal on a CTR motor.

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Old Nov 2, 2003 | 11:33 AM
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no one has ever drove a B16b power Hatch?

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Old Nov 2, 2003 | 01:38 PM
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Yes I have and wasn't impressed. It feels like a B16A swap with more power from 7000-9000. It still feels like a TQless wonder. I dunno i'd rather just get the JDM GSR swap for cheaper.
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Old Nov 2, 2003 | 01:49 PM
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Y not go with an ITR swap...
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Old Nov 2, 2003 | 01:58 PM
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That's another grand.
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Old Nov 2, 2003 | 03:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crXBoy69 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Y not go with an ITR swap...</TD></TR></TABLE>

because I got the motor 3thousand cheaper then the TYPE R
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Old Nov 2, 2003 | 03:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr Milano &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes I have and wasn't impressed. It feels like a B16A swap with more power from 7000-9000. It still feels like a TQless wonder. I dunno i'd rather just get the JDM GSR swap for cheaper.</TD></TR></TABLE>

dam sucks anyone else with any feedback?
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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 11:49 AM
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with alittle tuning it is sweet. especially if one track autox or road racing how much you find the swap for?
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 04:28 AM
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i have the b16b in a coupe and bottom end lacks but top end ****** rips
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 04:58 AM
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I have, but for $5500 or so, I rather just buy a complete ITR swap instead
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 10:19 AM
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Don't listen to people who tell you to buy an ITR swap...they're morons.

The B16b swap is friggin sweet: IT reads b16 on it, but has the deck height of a 1.8L block. The cams are slightly more aggressive then ITR cams, and the intake manifold has slightly shorter runners for more top end flow...

The secret to the b16b's success.. for the $1000 difference in price you have to go buy yourself:

LS Crank: $150.00
Balancing, Polishing, Chamfering Oil Holes: $150.00
Eagle Rods: $300
Bearings: $200

Throw those in with your CTR pistons, and your compression will jump to 12.2:1 and you'll make your motor a 1.8L block.....nasty all-honda motor. Add hondata and an SMSP header and your talking about 190-210whp with all-honda parts, minimal downtime, and minimal work/labor...
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 10:51 AM
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MaxBoost hit the nail on the head.

One can find the B16B for cheaper than an ITR swap. The money saved can go toward making it a 1.8(if that's your thing). Plus, you get the shorter geared tranny with LSD.
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 10:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MaxBoost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't listen to people who tell you to buy an ITR swap...they're morons.

The B16b swap is friggin sweet: IT reads b16 on it, but has the deck height of a 1.8L block. The cams are slightly more aggressive then ITR cams, and the intake manifold has slightly shorter runners for more top end flow...

The secret to the b16b's success.. for the $1000 difference in price you have to go buy yourself:

LS Crank: $150.00
Balancing, Polishing, Chamfering Oil Holes: $150.00
Eagle Rods: $300
Bearings: $200

Throw those in with your CTR pistons, and your compression will jump to 12.2:1 and you'll make your motor a 1.8L block.....nasty all-honda motor. Add hondata and an SMSP header and your talking about 190-210whp with all-honda parts, minimal downtime, and minimal work/labor...
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If you wanna do a b18c block with ls crank, why not start with a gsr block?It will be a lot cheaper than buying a b16b and doing it....and it would defeat the whole purpose of buying a b16b in the first place(perfect r/s ratio, high revs).

Second, eagle rods with pct's= not worth machine work....
third, compression with ls crank and pct's will be about 13 compression, not 12.2
fourth, IM is the same as the itr and the cams are the same as the newer itr's too.
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mmuller &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If you wanna do a b18c block with ls crank, why not start with a gsr block?It will be a lot cheaper than buying a b16b and doing it....and it would defeat the whole purpose of buying a b16b in the first place(perfect r/s ratio, high revs).

Second, eagle rods with pct's= not worth machine work....
third, compression with ls crank and pct's will be about 13 compression, not 12.2
fourth, IM is the same as the itr and the cams are the same as the newer itr's too.
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A GSR swap doesn't come with the shorter gearing and LSD is optional and costs more. You can get a B16B swap for only a couple hundred more than a GSR swap, plus you get an entirely better head, better pistons, and a better tranny.
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 11:12 AM
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Default Re: Anyone have a CTR AKA: B16b swap? (WAFFLES)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WAFFLES &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

A GSR swap doesn't come with the shorter gearing and LSD is optional and costs more. You can get a B16B swap for only a couple hundred more than a GSR swap, plus you get an entirely better head, better pistons, and a better tranny.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, you are right, but i was saying gsr block, not swap...
and for the money i pick b18c5
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mmuller &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

yeah, you are right, but i was saying gsr block, not swap...
and for the money i pick b18c5</TD></TR></TABLE>

well I got my civic type R in my EF and it rips LSD now all I need its to get a chipped ecu which can redline 9200-9500 I will be set killer motor vtec is a whole new **** on a type r motor
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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190-210whp is nice just off those mods ...that motor would prob boogie ...my friend dropped a b16b in a EG hatch and that **** moved pretty nice ...
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 02:17 PM
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I know someone that had a B16B in a 99 hatch. Full interior with i/h/e ran 14.7 on street tires.
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 06:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4piston &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know someone that had a B16B in a 99 hatch. Full interior with i/h/e ran 14.7 on street tires.</TD></TR></TABLE>

nice I am looking for some good Header like a TODA or SPOON.
Currenty running without the header bolted on the exhaust

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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 01:23 PM
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Bryan had one in his ek he went 8.6 in the 8th and low 13's in the quarter i think

http://www.donlundquist.com/Bryan/PC200015c.JPG




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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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how kind of whp and wtq is he putting down?
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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 03:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM2ndGen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how kind of whp and wtq is he putting down?</TD></TR></TABLE>

hahahaha!
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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 03:11 PM
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opps i mean what kind of whp and wtq is he putting down ...sorry i made a mistake ...so shoot me lol
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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 08:11 PM
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I think they are cool motors although they do lack torque. Anyone have a video of a civic with one of these rap happy motors?
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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 11:01 PM
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I have all CTR internals minus the crank, does that count?
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