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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 10:36 PM
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In less than 10 minutes you can hook up a Waterman fuel pump to your Vtec Honda without the use of a drive belt. The model 250600 pump will push more fuel than the 2345 Weldon. It works with alcohol or gas and can spin in either direction. Another benefit of a mechanical pump is that it is no longer necessary to convert your electrical system to 16 volts in order to drive your fuel pump harder. Pump is rated at 5.8 gallons per minute at 4000 rpm.









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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 10:51 PM
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I'd like to know more info about this thing.
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 10:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedb20vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd like to know more info about this thing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Price?
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 11:25 PM
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We will be running this pump next season with the race car and Arturbo will be running it on his street driven sport fwd car. The peice is extremely nice and you dont even have to run any battery wires...just fuel lines.
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 11:26 PM
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so how do u start the car? dont u need the pump going/pressurized lines PRIOR to turning over the engine?
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 11:29 PM
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2 ways...one the regulater keeps pressure in the fuel line...enough to start a car. 2, it will start pumping when the starter turns over because the pump turns with the cam and everything else inline.
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 12:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ninesecrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">2 ways...one the regulater keeps pressure in the fuel line...enough to start a car. 2, it will start pumping when the starter turns over because the pump turns with the cam and everything else inline.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ahh, so u sit ther and crank til it comes to life kinda like a domestic?
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 12:55 AM
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What I will be doing is still run the walbro intank. The walbro should still be able to provide the mechanical pump with ample amount of fuel. Basically the mechanical pump will be my inline pump. But I am going to upgrade the fuel lines to a larger size. With the intank still there I can prime it that way.

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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 01:47 AM
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Is there a price yet?
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 01:48 AM
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remember to tell people that they are going to need a little bit bigger fuel pressure regulator flow to get rid of two and a half thousand pounds of fuel per hour.
I think they came up with the name "waterman" because they developed it on a fire truck. No more jokes,promise.
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 06:10 AM
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id love to see how you are goin to fit this in a car. i bet it will hit the shock tower.
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 07:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lugnuts &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I think they came up with the name "waterman" because they developed it on a fire truck. No more jokes,promise.</TD></TR></TABLE>Haha, Sid Waterman has been building fuel pumps before you were born. Old time top fuel racer.
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 07:11 AM
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That's a sweet piece. Too bad I have a H22 in a Civic and that pump wont fit!
I like mechanical stuff........too many problems with electronics
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 07:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedh22a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That's a sweet piece. Too bad I have a H22 in a Civic and that pump wont fit!
I like mechanical stuff........too many problems with electronics </TD></TR></TABLE>

z10 has a really nice setup ......external wet sump oil pump with a presure sectin, vacum section.
you can also upgrade it so it will be a oil pump,vacum pump and fuel pump all in one. run all off of one belt. and it all mounts very nicely on the backside of the engine(b series anyhow)
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 07:46 AM
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boooo!

nuthin for an H though
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 07:47 AM
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does anyone know where to get an Electric vacuum pump, like the one that was on Lance's car?
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 08:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedh22a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does anyone know where to get an Electric vacuum pump, like the one that was on Lance's car?</TD></TR></TABLE>

electric vacuum pumps can be had off many cars in the junkyard or even from GM dealerships. check out this link:
http://www.hardtail.com/techtips/vacuum-pumps.html

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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 09:14 AM
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thanks for the link, right along my price range too. hehehe
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 09:41 AM
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How much is the fuelpump?
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 09:57 AM
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 10:24 AM
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Im interested in a price also, Nice piece.
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 11:46 AM
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It looks like a very nice piece. How much horsepower do you think you have to be putting out to require that much fuel? Seems like it would be overkill for N/A applications, but just what the doctor ordered for F.I.
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 12:51 PM
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Can a single regulator regulate pressure ?
If the cam spins faster, then the fuel pressure will increase, how can you " match " proportionally between the cam speed and the fuel pressure it generates ?

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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 12:54 PM
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These pumps are available in smaller flow sizes also. 2.8 gpm, 3.8gpm, 4.8gpm and 5.8gpm. BTW Venom runs the 5.8gpm size. The pump and install kit runs $750.
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 12:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Flamenco-T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can a single regulator regulate pressure ?
If the cam spins faster, then the fuel pressure will increase, how can you " match " proportionally between the cam speed and the fuel pressure it generates ?

stan</TD></TR></TABLE>You are right, they will increase flow as rpms increase. A check valve can be used to limit pressure to a pre determined amount. You still would need to use your fuel pressure regulator also. A good regulator can probably handle the pump without the need of a check valve.
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