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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 08:28 AM
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ok i was conversating with my friend today and he was telling me that vtec is worthless on a car and not good for racing. this guy isnt really a honda fan so he's probaly bullshiting. n e way i thought it was good for racing. when ur engine needs more air at higher rpms (this is sohc) it helps a lot. so i just wanna know if he's just talkin outta his *** or is vtec really bad thing when racing??
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 08:33 AM
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you cant lose with vtec.
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 08:37 AM
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Making more power at higher rpm's is horrible for racing.
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 08:40 AM
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Did this guy have anything to say to back that up? if vtec is bad for cars and bad for racing then why would they have built it
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 08:42 AM
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the other day my friend said hondas suck, is this true?




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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 08:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HXvtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok i was conversating with my friend today and he was telling me that vtec is worthless on a car and not good for racing. this guy isnt really a honda fan so he's probaly bullshiting. n e way i thought it was good for racing. when ur engine needs more air at higher rpms (this is sohc) it helps a lot. so i just wanna know if he's just talkin outta his *** or is vtec really bad thing when racing??</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, depends...

if you are referring to the HX motor, then that is for economy purposes.

If you referring to the normal old school VTEC like in GS-R's, H22's, etc...

then your friend is a tool and needs to learn of what he is talking about before blabbering.

VTEC is kinda like having a stock motor, and a V8 agressive *** cam.

When you hear those old school muscle V8's overlapping (having that "blub blub blub blub" idle), that is what the VTEC cam lobe is. At higher RPM's, it switches to that larger cam lobe and results in higher HP numbers after the primary cam lobes have expired (which are there for low end torque and fuel economy).

Once again, tell your buddy to learn what he is talking about before blabbering his mouth..
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 08:45 AM
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yea like i said my friends not a big honda fan he's into domestics
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 08:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HXvtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea like i said my friends not a big honda fan he's into domestics </TD></TR></TABLE>

Probably an ignorant mullet.
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 08:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by poison &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Well, depends...

if you are referring to the HX motor, then that is for economy purposes.

If you referring to the normal old school VTEC like in GS-R's, H22's, etc...

then your friend is a tool and needs to learn of what he is talking about before blabbering.

VTEC is kinda like having a stock motor, and a V8 agressive *** cam.

When you hear those old school muscle V8's overlapping (having that "blub blub blub blub" idle), that is what the VTEC cam lobe is. At higher RPM's, it switches to that larger cam lobe and results in higher HP numbers after the primary cam lobes have expired (which are there for low end torque and fuel economy).

Once again, tell your buddy to learn what he is talking about before blabbering his mouth..</TD></TR></TABLE>

well put. my hx has 2 lobes on the cam. i know its weak. also fuel economy and power cannot be put in the same sentence.
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 08:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HXvtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

well put. my hx has 2 lobes on the cam. i know its weak. also fuel economy and power cannot be put in the same sentence. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Fuel economy and power CAN be put in the same sentance, it just doesn't make much of one or the other.

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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 08:01 PM
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vtec kicks ***. b16 in my eg
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 08:56 PM
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In defense of HXs....

We have roller rockers! We can have bigger cam lobe profiles than you!! Our VTEC does suck though, nothing an EX head can't fix.
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 09:25 PM
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tell him to cut his mullet
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 09:50 PM
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VTEC is really only necessary for everyday driving, because you want the low-RPM torque and high RPM horsepower...if you have a race motor, you will hardly spend any time in the low-RPM range...so it really isnt necessary...you just get one big monster cam with lots of power up top.
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 10:26 PM
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if you put an ex head on it you wont have roller rockers <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MrIllegalX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In defense of HXs....

We have roller rockers! We can have bigger cam lobe profiles than you!! Our VTEC does suck though, nothing an EX head can't fix. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 11:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hella_JDM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you put an ex head on it you wont have roller rockers </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, but then you have real VTEC. its a trade-off. lol
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 04:33 PM
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id make that trade , but i have an ex motor so im good to go
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 05:54 PM
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any misconceptions of VTEC or people who think it si stupid refer them to this site

http://www.leecao.com/honda/vtec/index.html

explains all kinds of VTEC and why u want it. As i believe mazda did start something like VTEC after honda also and so did some domestic cars...not my area of thought tho..some help?
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