Will They? I know I have to use extended wheel studs and special lugs, but i dont know if they will fit over the brakes?

How about with a spacer? If so, how big of a spacer... thanks for the info!

 

no they don't fit over. your options are to get extended studs with a 1/4" spacer which bogart sells thats hubcentric for those rims or convert over to non ex/si civic front brakes and hubs(9"). the later is the better way by far.

 

What Lip said above is correct. I run 13" dragon Flys over my GSR brakes utilizing a 1/4" spacer and ARP extended studs. Bogart actualy told me to use a 5/16" spacer but the 1/4" works fine.

 

you can do the spacer idea or if you dont like using spacers like myself I took some slotted rotors and metal master brake pads for a civic VX and put them on my car. I can use 13's with out spaces and not have to worry about less stopping power then GSR brakes. just another idea.

 

To bring this post back up if you go with the 1/4" spacer and extended wheel studs do you need Bogart open ended lugs? Or will just about any open ended lug work?

Thanks.

 

use bogart or equivelant....bogart uses i think a mcguard lug nut that fits inside the mounting holes which centers the rim properly. also...make sure to take care of your studs and threads. stripping an extended stud sucks nuts. Also...make sure your extended studs are long enough. some sanctioned bodies want a certain amount of stud thread past the lug nut. meaning that if the stud doesn't project far enough past the lug nut....they consider it unsafe.

 

Sounds good. I'm setting up my car for battle and they want the stud to protrude through the lug nut. I just saw on Exospeed "Bogart lug nuts" *must be used when using bogart wheels and was just curious.

Thanks.

 

when ordering the lugs...just make sure you stipulate you are using the 1/4" spacer because of course those lug nuts are longer

 

Lip or anyone else...I have a set of 13x8 Drag-on-fly stars for my 92 Civic VX. I am eventually going to upgrade the brakes to EX/Si units...I was under the impression that you can fit the Bogarts on EX/Si brakes with a little shaving of the calipers since they are a bit smaller then the GSR calipers or do I still need spacers?

Thanks,
John

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1fastVX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lip or anyone else...I have a set of 13x8 Drag-on-fly stars for my 92 Civic VX. I am eventually going to upgrade the brakes to EX/Si units...I was under the impression that you can fit the Bogarts on EX/Si brakes with a little shaving of the calipers since they are a bit smaller then the GSR calipers or do I still need spacers?

Thanks,
John </TD></TR></TABLE>
if you are upgrading the brakes and calipers from the VX to the EX units, you might have to use a spacer for the Bogart wheels to clear.
Bogart makes the standard wheel for Civic brakes 88-91 and civic 92-00 wihtout the ABS.
if you have Civic with ABS and Integra90-00, you will need the Bogart wheel that has the built in Spacer or your own spacer.

 

thats correct. i tried trimming the caliper but ex/si/gsr calipers are just too big for the bogarts. Lenso and kaisers don't require this but aren't as light and are limited as far as widths.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lip &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats correct. i tried trimming the caliper but ex/si/gsr calipers are just too big for the bogarts. Lenso and kaisers don't require this but aren't as light and are limited as far as widths. </TD></TR></TABLE>

So Lenso's would clear fine without a spacer on EX/Si brakes w/o ABS? Do you have to have extended wheel studs and different lugs for Lenso's as well?

 

Lensos dont need any modifications at all.
NO extended wheel studs or special lug nuts. it will fit all Civic and integra brakes (except ITR)

 

yes they clear....you don't HAVE TO....but its recommended to use extended studs. you don't need the wheel spacer though. I'll try to upload how bad a teg with spacers looks with bogarts. they stick out way too far. object is to keep them "tubbed" not look like wings

 

Well I guess I need spacers....would it be best to buy them from Bogart? If so can anyone here get them and how much? Also would I need anything else(I already have longer wheel studs)?

Thanks guys!!!

John

 

bogart wheel spacers are hubcentric to thier rims. get those.

 

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So Lenso's would clear fine without a spacer on EX/Si brakes w/o ABS? Do you have to have extended wheel studs and different lugs for Lenso's as well?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't forget Steve if you plan on running in a real class most all require extended studs and open ended lugs.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lip &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bogart wheel spacers are hubcentric to thier rims. get those.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Funny because I spoke with Mr. Bogart himself and he told me to go to a local auto parts and pick up some 5/16" spacers. I couldn't fine 5/16" anywhere so I bought some 4x100 1/4" spacers and they work fine.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by exospeedAMcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lensos dont need any modifications at all.
NO extended wheel studs or special lug nuts. it will fit all Civic and integra brakes (except ITR)
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Thanks for the answer. I was actually on your site and was wondering about that info. While on the subject of drag wheels and slicks and stuff, which slicks (that you sell) do you prefer?

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Don't forget Steve if you plan on running in a real class most all require extended studs and open ended lugs.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hmmmm...maybe I might have to get extended wheel studs then Do you know which classes require extended wheel studs, or is each track and race different?

 

Well I mean T&T and ET Brackets or stuff like you ran at MIR obviously won't, but if you ever plan on running an actual Sanctioning body class you will. Like for example I am building my car to Battle: S/S specs. Most all class' like this require them.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skunked &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Funny because I spoke with Mr. Bogart himself and he told me to go to a local auto parts and pick up some 5/16" spacers. I couldn't fine 5/16" anywhere so I bought some 4x100 1/4" spacers and they work fine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i never said you couldn't get something other then bogart. here is the issue. those generic spacers are nearly impossible to center correctly. object is to get the wheels to spin true, plant and accellorate. something unbalanced in some way shape or form can possibly alter traction. not saying it will...but its possible. The hubcentric spacers, the correct lug nut thicknesses for the rims they fit snuggly into is how i did it. just my suggestion

 

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i never said you couldn't get something other then bogart. here is the issue. those generic spacers are nearly impossible to center correctly. object is to get the wheels to spin true, plant and accellorate. something unbalanced in some way shape or form can possibly alter traction. not saying it will...but its possible. The hubcentric spacers, the correct lug nut thicknesses for the rims they fit snuggly into is how i did it. just my suggestion</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm sure the Bogart parts are better quality, no doubt.