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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 12:58 PM
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My engine is making this awful awful sound. It's coming from the head. It sounded at first like it was coming from the distributor, so I removed the cap, and found nothing unusual. I removed the distributor and also found nothing unusual.
It is definetely coming from that side of the head though. I have not "got on it" since this has started, but the car does run fine. As one should assume, the noise does make me VERY nervous. Please help!
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 01:01 PM
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you are not specific enough for anyone to help.....a noise is a noise....no way to diagnos that over the internet....
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 01:02 PM
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GIVE MO' INFO!
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 01:03 PM
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I really don't know how to describe the noise. Its like a rattle. Very fast and erratic. It's loud enough to hear barely from the inside of the car. If you are near the engine, it is very audible.
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 01:05 PM
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when did this start happening? what kind of noises..can you describe it?
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 01:07 PM
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It almost sounds like valve chatter....

It started a day ago, after I finished replacing my headgasket. Everything was tighened down via spec in the Helms.
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 01:08 PM
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sound almost like a diseil (sp?) engine, could need a valve adjustment. also try going to mobile 1 oil, i have hear that helps.
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 01:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Inigo Montoya &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sound almost like a diseil (sp?) engine, could need a valve adjustment. also try going to mobile 1 oil, i have hear that helps.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Damn you beat me to it
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 01:13 PM
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It's not a squealing is it?
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 01:16 PM
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No, it's not squeeling.

There is currently Mobile 1 in the engine.

Yes, it sounds remotely like a diesel engine.
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 01:19 PM
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It sounds like it's coming from where the distributor meets the intake cam.....
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 01:53 PM
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starrt with a valve adjustment. given the info here, it was that or poss the bushing in the dist.
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 01:56 PM
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The guy whom I work with keeps suggesting that it is the bearing in the distributor or the shaft in the distributor.

The valves are untouched before or after the headgasket replacement, and they were fine prior to it.
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 02:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94si94cx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The guy whom I work with keeps suggesting that it is the bearing in the distributor or the shaft in the distributor.

The valves are untouched before or after the headgasket replacement, and they were fine prior to it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly why I was asking about the squealing.

also if the dizzy is going bad it might make a grinding noise, but it's so hard to e-diagnose such things bro.

I wish I could actually hear it, you know?

did you see any reddish dust in the rotor button area under the dizzy cap?
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 02:08 PM
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is there a way you can record the noise and put it online? that would help aloot.
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 02:16 PM
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i hear a slight tapping sound, when im side my car... but when i go near the engine its seems to be coming from the same spot as yours. sounds like something is loose and drives me nuts.
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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Maybe it's your Lost Motion Assemblies?
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 02:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Exactly why I was asking about the squealing.

also if the dizzy is going bad it might make a grinding noise, but it's so hard to e-diagnose such things bro.

I wish I could actually hear it, you know?

did you see any reddish dust in the rotor button area under the dizzy cap?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If I didn't have to work all the time, I would definetely have brought it by and let you take a look at it or something. I only live like 20-30 minutes from your shop. I didnt happen to notice that reddish dust that you described though.
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 02:41 PM
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i have the same noise on my gsr, it sounds like it's coming from the distributer. when you find out what the problem is let me know.
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 05:41 PM
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EH I GOT A WHITE EX TOO. I FUCKED UP MY CAR WHEN I WAS DOING SOME 0-100. DOUBLE CLUTCHING AND ****. NO WHAT I MEAN? I WAS PUSHING IT AND I GUESS THE PRESSURE JUST BLEW THE HEADER SCREWS KINDA LOOSE. TRY TAKING THE HEAT SHEILD OFF OF THE HEADER. PLACE YOUR HAND AROUND THE LOWER HEADER AND REV THE ENGINE. IF YOU FEEL A SLIGHT BREEZE OF AIR, ITS THE HEADER SCREWS. THEY'RE LOOSE. TIGHTEN THEM UP AND SEE IF IT HELPS, SURE HELPED ME. EVERYBODY THOUGHT THAT IT IS THE TYRANNY AND THEY EVEN THOUGHT THAT THE BOOTS ON MY STEERING THINGS WERE BROKEN. CHECK IT OUT AND SEE IF ITS THE HEADER.
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 06:26 PM
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My car makes the same noise. I rebuilt the head and put in a new OEM gasket and ARP studs and now it makes that noise. You need a valve adjustment sir.
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 07:00 PM
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definatley sounds like a bad case of muffler bearings. Mine did this untill i replaced them. Might as well change your blinker fluid while your in there.
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 09:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sohc_civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">EH I GOT A WHITE EX TOO. I FUCKED UP MY CAR WHEN I WAS DOING SOME 0-100. DOUBLE CLUTCHING AND ****. NO WHAT I MEAN? I WAS PUSHING IT AND I GUESS THE PRESSURE JUST BLEW THE HEADER SCREWS KINDA LOOSE. TRY TAKING THE HEAT SHEILD OFF OF THE HEADER. PLACE YOUR HAND AROUND THE LOWER HEADER AND REV THE ENGINE. IF YOU FEEL A SLIGHT BREEZE OF AIR, ITS THE HEADER SCREWS. THEY'RE LOOSE. TIGHTEN THEM UP AND SEE IF IT HELPS, SURE HELPED ME. EVERYBODY THOUGHT THAT IT IS THE TYRANNY AND THEY EVEN THOUGHT THAT THE BOOTS ON MY STEERING THINGS WERE BROKEN. CHECK IT OUT AND SEE IF ITS THE HEADER.
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WTF are you talking about??? steering things??? Double Clutching??? you know there is no reason to do that anymore right???

Also plz lay off of the ALL CAPS plz.
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 10:31 AM
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my swap makes a VERY similar sound but only when its warming up,after that it goes away. It sounds like an erratic chattering noise.

Here is a sound clip of mine, quality is not that great but the mic is right over the dizzy and while i probably do need a valve adjustment this sound does not come from the valve cover area.

just save! http://www.we-todd-did-racing....DE%3D
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 10:33 AM
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also the sound that im talking about is best heard in the clip from seconds:7-11 and 16-18
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