I know about the advantages of going to a rear disk setup, but it's not at all what I need. However I do want to upgrade, sleeper style. I am really curious if you can use the rear drums with a larger diameter from a 92+ civic. This really has tickled my imagination and wanted to get some opinions.

 

I dont see the point in this? When you swap from drums to disc your not getting any better braking distance. While some people think that you can stop better with discs over drums they are wrong or at least falsely informed. The biggest reasons to swapping from drums to disc is that they are easier to work on and well they look better IMO. I dont think it would be worth your trouble to try and upgrade to bigger drums the only thing your going to be doing is adding more weight to your car.

 

I am just doing it cause I hate my rear drum noise when I get brake dust build up!!
Also cause I got my rear disk set up for free....

 

hehe, i haven't changed my rear drummies in over 3 years b/c of not wanting to learn to work on one.
I will one day...

 

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bah its not that hard, get your hands dirty

another advantage i see for having rear disks is just because they are more consistent when braking. But there are also some disadvantages like others have said... like weight, etc.

 

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It's actually not that hard once you get it down, but the springs and that clip make it a beeyatch!

 

The're not that bad, get out your helms and follow along. FWIW, porterfield makes r4s shoes for the crx/civic rear if you "need" an upgrade. Also the 87 HF ribbed aluminum drums are a direct fit if you need the bling. They are hard to find though. Hell, I remember when drum brakes were all you got!
HTH
chris

 

Yeah, my 1975 CJ-5 had 4 wheel drums until I put discs up front. Drums aren't so good under water and mud.

Drums aren't that bad to work on, if you spend a couple bucks and get the correct tools. They make little tools for pretty cheap that get the springs on and off for you. Makes it a lot easier.

 

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HTH
chris</TD></TR></TABLE>


whoa crazi, are those drums swapable on to a 95 civic ex? how does aluminum respond to the heat created?

 

help?

 

Interesting question...
I looked up the aftermarket part number for a 89Si drum and a 92cx...the same: N2000-40291. Same thing with the oem Honda part numbers.
So my educated guess...yes, it will work on some 92-95 Civics. But you asked about the EX...didn't it have rear discs already?

The real problem is finding the aluminum drums for reasonable price.

 

finally some real help. kragens has a pair for 90 bucks. another 110 dollars i can have myself some rear discs, what to do what to do.

 

With the EF, the rear discs do not offer any real braking performance improvement over drums.
I can't say if its the same with the EG.
As mentioned above, discs are easier to do maintenance on...but that benefit is only felt every couple years.
The alum drums are significantly lighter then the cast steel drums...I would guess that they are lighter than discs but I doubt you would ever be able to really feel the difference while driving.

They do look cool, for drums...with the cooling fins and the fact that they stay shiny because they don't rust.
Just for extra insurance I shot mine with a layer of clear hi-temp engine paint before I installed them to prevent oxidation.

 

Bringing this back from the dead, but can I go to Advanced Auto or Autozone and pick up rear drums and shoes for a 87 crx HF and put them on my 90 HF?

 

you cant buy the ones for the HF anymore. but you can buy insight drums, which are nearly the same from what im told. theyre really expensive from the dealer, or from napa, the only other place you can find em new.

mine.

 

disks also have a better self adjusting "feature" compared to drums, if you don't adjust drums from time to time the can cause an uneven breaking bias, especially if your one of those "spirited" drivers

 

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Disc brakes fade in the rain, there also heavier to. Whats your point ?

The only real aspect to changing from drum to disc would be for looks, and cause you don't feel like changing brake shoes.

 

man, i used to have an american car with 4 wheel drum brakes. the car didnt stop for anything..

for being able to change all your pads in less than 20 hours.

 

Do drum brakes last longer? I have changed my disc brake pads twice since I got the car, my drums are still running strong.

 

I got two sets of these damn things!

 

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super easy dude...i was scared my first time too but just dont get your parts mixed up and you should be fine.

 

Everyone is saying about the weight being a big deal, In a autocross or solo1 car the extra weight in the rear is not a bad thing if anything it helps you get a better weight distrubution.

Disks have less tendency to fade than drums.

As for braking performance (60-0) I agree they are not much better if any over drum but you can do the whole swap in the time it takes to change pads in a drum and save at least an hour every time you change them.

The bang for your buck is deffinatley to upgrade the front brakes.

For somone comtemplateing any brake upgrade Iwould suggest stainless lines, new fluid, a good flush and performance pads before makeing a huge investment because those small things alone will make a HUGE difference.
and the money spent on suspension will yeild more results in performance.


spun

 

don't disks get rid of heat better due to being exposed to a lot more air?

 

yes thus less fade

 

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Lets put it this way, Have you ever seen a race car (current era, not early 50's and beyond) with Drum Brakes?

There are countless advantages to having rear disc over drum. If you have the ability to adjust bias, you have better handling characteristics. Also if you ad cross drilled or slotted rotors, you reduce fade. AND, they look cool. Who cares if your adding a trivial amount of weight. Your talking about the back end which has hardly any to begin with, especially if your a road racer. If your a daily driver, you won't even notice.

I have my 4g4d installed with em and they are a much better add on than those cheap *** drums. Watch out when you lock them up, they bite and bite hard, that's why its good to have ABS (i don't have that tho).


I rest my case.