well i just got the header about an hour ago, all i can say is wow. The quality is excellent, the welds are the best i have ever seen. I'll hopefully be installing the header tonight, provided i don't have to get the b pipe expanded to fit the new cat.

I'll definetly post my first impressions once its on and i will post the dyno shortly after the 1st of nov.

I just had to share my excitement, i can't wait to get off work today.

 

Remember to let me know when you come back to B-more.

Good luck. Can't wait to see the results.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93preludevtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i just got the header about an hour ago, all i can say is wow. The quality is excellent, the welds are the best i have ever seen. I'll hopefully be installing the header tonight, provided i don't have to get the b pipe expanded to fit the new cat.

I'll definetly post my first impressions once its on and i will post the dyno shortly after the 1st of nov.

I just had to share my excitement, i can't wait to get off work today. </TD></TR></TABLE>


cant wait to see the pics. congratz

 

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Good luck. Can't wait to see the results.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I should be back up there around the 25th or 26th of nov., i'll give you heads up before we come up that way.


Modified by 93preludevtec at 3:45 PM 10/23/2003

 

Cool. This will be my first time seeing a VTEC 4th gen too!!

 

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I'll definetly post my first impressions once its on and i will post the dyno shortly after the 1st of nov. </TD></TR></TABLE>


Nov. 1st seems so far away.

what's the dyno gonna compare, or is it just gonna be the smsp header with your current setup?

&lt;-- for your header

 

the hell with the pics. HA! get to the dyno asap. and what header will you be comparing to? was there a dyno on the car prior to the new header? are you going to use the same dyno?

 

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Nov. 1st seems so far away.

what's the dyno gonna compare, or is it just gonna be the smsp header with your current setup?

&lt;-- for your header</TD></TR></TABLE>

I will be comparing it to the dc 4-2-1, i had the car dynoed in june (tuned the vafc). i wanted to do another current baseline, but the lack of funds is holding me back. I recently found out my wife is pregnant with our second child along with other financial issues. So its just not feasible at the moment.

However i still have the dyno from june and nothing has really changed since then (except switching to full syn. oil). I will be using that dyno as the baseline. Once i get the new dyno i will make another thread in which i'll give all the details, pics, etc.

 

also, the header wasn't installed last night. The b pipe had to have the tapered expansion and new flange welded on. It is currently at an exhaust shop, so i'll hopefully be putting it on tonight. i'll keep y'all posted.

 

does it have a flange to attach to the cat/exhaust?
and it looks sweet huh? im buying one as soon as i find out how

 

yes the new flange can be supplied with the header. to order just contact SMSP by IM or by email.


Email = smsproducts@adelphia.net

 

already done,
when you say it can be, that means it doesnt come with it? or you have to sepcify?

 

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when you say it can be, that means it doesnt come with it? or you have to sepcify?</TD></TR></TABLE>

you have to pay for the gaskets, hardware, flanges, etc. I think it was an additional 30 bucks.

Ask dave if you have any questions, he can answer them better than i could.

I can tell you my total was $1356.00 with new high flow cat, header, hardware and shipping.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LudeHatchH22a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does it have a flange to attach to the cat/exhaust?
and it looks sweet huh? im buying one as soon as i find out how</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is the only picture I have handy of the collector right now. It is the same as the one I use on all my collectors which is like the majority of Hondas/Acuras. The collector tubing passes through the 2 bolt flange and then a graphite donut slides over the tubing. The cat or test pipe is flared to match up with the donut. Then you use (2) bolts/springs to make the joint. The oint provides a pivot point for the exhaust so you don't break a weld. Then the cat or test pipe has a standard 3 bolt flange welded to the outlet side.

edit:image removed

BTW, polished tubing is extra.


Modified by SMSP at 5:21 PM 2/23/2004

 

Not sure if this has been asked...and I don't have time to search...but would it be a worthwhile mod if I have a 2.25" inlet/outlet Carsound Cat and a 2.25" inlet Thermal Classic exhaust???

I currently have a DC Sports header that I was THINKING about replacing when i get my H22 swap.

Any ideas???

 

i want to know how these compared to the an-r header. i want to buy a real header thati know ill get the most power from

 

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Don't turn this thread into another header argument. Search the site and make your decision from there.

 

does the header come with the graphite donut too?

 

hey, so we found one of the ten buyers.

where are the other nine?

 

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where are the other nine? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm in VA, Steve's in NC, so it only took 2 days for shipping. Another customer is from TX, one from NM and the rest from CA.

 

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I'm in VA, Steve's in NC, so it only took 2 days for shipping. Another customer is from TX, one from NM and the rest from CA.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Off topic, but curious if you recieved my email the other day? reguarding info on the h22 header?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ildknyli &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does the header come with the graphite donut too?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you buy the gaskets and hardware it does.


well i put the header on last night and IT IS WORTH EVERY PENNY. The gains are absolutely amazing, throughout the entire powerband it pulls so much harder. It feels like a completely different car, i am thoroughly satisfied with this header.

I've had several friends in the car and they also confirmed the increases with they're *** dynos. Also my wife (the hardest customer to please) says she noticed a definite increase in power. I believe her exact words were "holy ****", shes still not happy about me spending the money though.

Well the next step is getting it dynoed, which should take place after the first of nov. Just waiting on the next paycheck. I can't wait to see the increases on paper and how much power can be extracted with re-tuning the vafc. Even if i don't break the elusive 200 whp mark, I'll still be pleased with cost to gains ratio.

Like i stated earlier i will post another thread once i get it on the dyno. All i can say is it was well worth the wait. If you are considering a new valvetrain or some
other mod (as i was), take the money and BUY THIS HEADER instead.

Job well done dave, absolutely amazing. So when are you planning on building that catback exhaust?

 

webpage?

 

how much is the gasket and hardware and whats included

 

Rather have a Jun Header