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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 10:37 PM
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Which One Is More Preferrable.. The 4th Gen H22?? Or The 5th Gen H22 On A 92 Prelude Type S ?? Please Reply ASAP. Thanks.. Much Appreciated..
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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 10:40 PM
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on a type s, I dont think it matters. i am not real big on preludes but i do know the type s has 20 more horses so just any old h22a is not what you want!!
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Old Oct 20, 2003 | 02:57 AM
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what is a 92 prelude type s? You mean an s model?

Anyways if the car is a 92 you want an OBDI JDM motor...makes things easier.
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Old Oct 20, 2003 | 08:40 AM
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i know all about what obd motor to put in which car. i did the swap on my accord. a prelude type s is a jdm prelude. all right hand drive, 220 horses, 11.0-1 compression. bad to the bone. the motors go for around 4,500 on jdmhondaparts.
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Old Oct 20, 2003 | 04:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Untouchable Accord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a prelude type s is a jdm prelude. all right hand drive, 220 horses, 11.0-1 compression. bad to the bone. the motors go for around 4,500 on jdmhondaparts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's not a 92 Type S. Reread the post - he's asking whether he should put a 4g or 5g H22 into a 92 Type S. I bet he meant S, ie F22. Because that sure would be a silly question to ask if he already has a JDM Type S swap.
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Old Oct 20, 2003 | 05:52 PM
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i'd most definitely stick with the 4th gen h22, and most definitely get the h22a (jdm h22)
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Old Oct 20, 2003 | 06:54 PM
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except 5 gen h22a4 came with more power then the h22a1??? maybe im lost? I dunno, but look, get the 5gen h22a4, and drop some type s pistons in it, and get some type s cams and there ya go
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Old Oct 20, 2003 | 07:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gen4h22a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">except 5 gen h22a4 came with more power then the h22a1??? maybe im lost? I dunno, but look, get the 5gen h22a4, and drop some type s pistons in it, and get some type s cams and there ya go</TD></TR></TABLE>

Long's he's up for going from OBD1 to OBD2. It'd be my preference just to stick with the OBD1 to make things easier.

And if Type S cams/pistons are an desire/option for him even....is there a reason they couldn't go into a H22A1?
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Old Oct 20, 2003 | 08:13 PM
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i did misunderstand. but, of course you want obd1&lt;--&gt; obd1 and obd2&lt;--&gt;obd2. that way you dont have to change all kinds of stuff. and, as far as i know you can put the h22 type s pistons, and cams into any h22. just as long as they are both(motor and pistons) the same bore. the reason you want those is just for compression=more of those little things all of us honda people love...horsies!!
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Old Oct 20, 2003 | 09:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gen4h22a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">except 5 gen h22a4 came with more power then the h22a1??? maybe im lost? I dunno, but look, get the 5gen h22a4, and drop some type s pistons in it, and get some type s cams and there ya go</TD></TR></TABLE>

bahh that's all made up dynos don't lie the 5th gen doesn't dyno any higher.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 11:03 AM
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My bad guys, I meant by the prelude S. haha i wish i had the type S. well when i get the swap will have to get change anything or buy anything else except the motor? i.e. motor mounts, exhaust, headers, etc.......
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 11:55 AM
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dont go with a USDM engine, you will be much happier with a JDM H22. They have 200hp just like the newer 5th gens but they are all OBD1 and have higher compression. Most of the time the engine will come with everything needed, the only thing that is different is the wiring.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 12:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Vtec96Lude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">......... the only thing that is different is the wiring........</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats not true, you will at least need a new header for sure, my brain isnt working right now but there might be something else as well.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 05:39 AM
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why will he need a new header. i just swapped my 90 accord with an h22a out of a 93 prelude. all obd1. the header just needed to be welded to my cat because my cat bolts were so rusted and seized on. my swap camed with axles, mounts, power steering, a/c, half shaft(intermediate shaft) and tranny and ecu. ohh yea, it even came with the intake tube but no box, probably because it was bolted to the car. when you buy your motor, don't buy the first one you see. shop around, and then buy. the only thing they had to change was put on my wiring harness and wire up vtec and the knock sensor.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 05:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by satan_srv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

bahh that's all made up dynos don't lie the 5th gen doesn't dyno any higher.</TD></TR></TABLE>

and did you see what sort of trouble stretchin the HP rating got Mazda into with the RX-8? They tried to play the numbers so they matched really damn close to the S2000.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 06:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Untouchable Accord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why will he need a new header. i just swapped my 90 accord with an h22a out of a 93 prelude. all obd1. </TD></TR></TABLE>

ok, im a little confused? what engine did you have in your accord? from what it sound like you just put a h22 with its header into your car.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 10:24 AM
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had the stock motor, like a f22a1 or b1, whichever did not have vtec originally. i installed a h22a (jdm) motor, tranny, and ecu. the full swap came with exhaust manifold, downpipe, with flexpipe on the end. it was just a few inches short of my cat, so they had to weld it it place.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 04:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Untouchable Accord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">had the stock motor, like a f22a1 or b1, whichever did not have vtec originally. i installed a h22a (jdm) motor, tranny, and ecu. the full swap came with exhaust manifold, downpipe, with flexpipe on the end. it was just a few inches short of my cat, so they had to weld it it place. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Right...so, you got a new H22 header didn't you It came with your swap.

What he was trying to say is, the F22 header won't bolt to the H22 head. You're assuming he buys a full swap from somewhere such that it comes with the intake/exh manifolds, etc. If he goes and buys a H22 longblock privately - which may not come with manifold(s) - he needs to know that certain F22 parts won't just bolt up.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 06:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by phil2000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

And if Type S cams/pistons are an desire/option for him even....is there a reason they couldn't go into a H22A1?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes there is a reason, the difference between h22a4 having floating pins....compared to the h22a1 which is different...type S pistons only work with floating pins, therefore you can not use h22a1 rods...u can get new ones or get a shop to do stuff to your h22a1 rods...which will be a little more money, ya know?
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 07:09 PM
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go with a jdm h22a obd1 rules
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