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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 06:40 PM
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Okay, so I just purchased a 94 Civic Del Sol. It's the VTEC model. Only problem is that the car has 200 k miles on it. I want to obviously restore it, but I'm still new in the car scene, and am not sure exactly what my procedure should be. Obviously new motor. I'm gonna go B16. New tranny, ECU, what else would the car need after that? Thanks a lot guys.
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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 06:44 PM
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motor tranny ECU.

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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 06:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iLLoGiC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Only problem is that the car has 200 k miles on it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
another problem your over looking is the fact that its a del sol...but to each his own. good luck
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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 06:56 PM
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Nothing rong with a delsol.

Keep the VTEC engine. If you rebuild it, you can show some impressive numbers. Then Turbo it later on.

First thing first, suspension, I/H/E, 15-16' rims, CF hood and others to lighten the fat lady (2300 lbs), Then work on rebuilding the motor. If you decide to do a swap, skip the B16, unless it's the CTR B16B, and replace it with a GSR motor. It's, correct me if im rong, a direct swap. Then after all is done, make it look nice. Thats the route i've begun and am going.
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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 07:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DISDICKBITCH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
another problem your over looking is the fact that its a del sol...but to each his own. good luck</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, that's THE crx del sol. it came with b-series motor mounts, b-series driveshafts, b-series wiring, the best tranny and linkage for a b-series, bigger brakes, a shorter chassis, sway bars w/real endlinks, and front strut & tie bars. w/o abs weighs around 2400 lbs (300 less than a teg). what am i missing, what's the problem?
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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 07:13 PM
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Default Re: New '94 Civic Del Sol VTEC model, what do I do first? (dohcdelsol)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dohcdelsol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nothing rong with a delsol.

Keep the VTEC engine. If you rebuild it, you can show some impressive numbers. Then Turbo it later on.

First thing first, suspension, I/H/E, 15-16' rims, CF hood and others to lighten the fat lady (2300 lbs), Then work on rebuilding the motor. If you decide to do a swap, skip the B16, unless it's the CTR B16B, and replace it with a GSR motor. It's, correct me if im rong, a direct swap. Then after all is done, make it look nice. Thats the route i've begun and am going.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Is it really a direct swap? Whoa what engine is in there already? I thought it was already a B16, but maybe I have been wrong all along
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 05:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Neptune &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Is it really a direct swap? Whoa what engine is in there already? I thought it was already a B16, but maybe I have been wrong all along</TD></TR></TABLE>

I heard the B18 gsr motor is a direct swap but im not 100% sure. I could be rong. Yeah, the Vtec has the B16 motor last time i checked. And if you rebuild that motor, u would see some impressive numbers. I just realized i contradicted myself. My bad
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 05:31 PM
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VTEC model comes with a B16A3.. "Grasshopper motor" ... but it won't be a direct swap to a b18c1 unfortunately. Keep the B16 after you get your other motor and hook it up... turbo A3 with 8.5:1 compression and the biggest turbo you can buy
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 05:36 PM
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how much did you pay for it?

and why isnt the b18c1 GSR a direct swap?
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 05:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by middleman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much did you pay for it?

and why isnt the b18c1 GSR a direct swap?</TD></TR></TABLE>
it's reeeal close but the deck height makes u replace the stock header.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 05:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by delslo26 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">VTEC model comes with a B16A3.. "Grasshopper motor" ... but it won't be a direct swap to a b18c1 unfortunately. Keep the B16 after you get your other motor and hook it up... turbo A3 with 8.5:1 compression and the biggest turbo you can buy </TD></TR></TABLE>
imo, that's the wrong way... bump the cr to 11:1 w/oem parts an crank it up. if u want a turbo put a farty sounding b18 in it.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 06:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mathusala &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
it's reeeal close but the deck height makes u replace the stock header. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats really really close. Thanks for the info, ill need to know that in the near future
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 01:09 AM
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Default Re: New '94 Civic Del Sol VTEC model, what do I do first? (Who Said)

What's wrong with Del Sol's?
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 05:22 AM
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i want a del sol vtec....

i'm actually looking to trade my b18 powered EG for one!
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 05:44 AM
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REBUILD your current engine, do suspension and brakes. wheels. 15 max imo. sway bar upgrades and then the standard bolt ons. combat that chassis flex first!
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 06:08 AM
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Do all your go-fast stuff first, especially if you are planning on doing a swap (although personally, I would just rebuild the engine you have). I would rebuild the B16, for either all motor or boost, and work on the suspension a bit.

I really don't see what all the people on here have against del Sols...they can be made really nice and aside from the targa top and a little bit more weight, the del Sol is pretty much the same thing as an EG. I put an H22 in mine and I'm just about as fast as most swapped EG's out there and I get to enjoy the del Sols uniqueness (not many around where I live, I get the "what car is that?" question all the time) and at the same time, have the nice features of the car such as the targa top.

Sometimes though, when I am going through a turn and all 4 tires give up on me and I start to slide a bit, I wish I had a hatch.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 06:37 AM
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There isn't anything you need to do. THe "VTEC" Del Sol has the B16A3 in it. If it's running bad... rebuild it. Its a good motor. THe trany is a Y21 with 4.40 final Drive gears... which makes for a very quick little car. Also... if it is an actual VTEC Sol... it has the bigger axles, 4wheel disc breaks, heaver anti-roll bars front and rear.

Nothing left to do besides throwing a turbo on it.

Here's some pics of my VTEC Sol. (only 33K mi on it when I found it)
http://orw.truckmoxie.com/myga...=7294

Since I bouhgt my Sol, Ive noticed alot of people calling the Si model Del Sol the VTEC. Although it has a SOHC VTEC... it's not the "VTEC" model.


Modified by Dr Honda at 4:02 PM 10/22/2003
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 06:45 AM
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how large are the sway bars front and rear?
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 06:51 AM
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rebuild it, don't replace it. quick car out of the box, i'd leave it stock/reliable/quiet while working on the appearance and handling.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 07:07 AM
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Hey phantom_Sol...

Her's the specs for the anti-roll bars.

(Model Front / Rear)

S 21mm / NA
Si 22mm / 13mm
VTEC 24mm / 15mm


I drove an "S" model when I started looking for a project car... And I do have to say that the power and handeling is night and day from the S to the VTEC. (I didn't get a chance to drive a Si)
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 08:05 AM
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i have a 93 del sol S. i had no sway bar whatsoever. i swapped control arms and put the gsr front and rear. would it depend on the years then?
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 08:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dr Honda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Since I bouhgt my Sol, Ive noticed alot of people calling the Si model Del Sol the VTEC. Although it has a SOHC VTEC... it's not the "VTEC" model.
Modified by Dr Honda at 4:02 PM 10/22/2003</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have the Si model. It's fast then the S but slower then the Vtec model. It has a fake vtec. Or something like that. The cams are there but i dont think it kicks in as hard as the actual vtec from the b series. Or something like that. If anyone could explain the "fake sohc vtec" to me, go for it.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 08:24 AM
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It's not fake VTEC, it's simply a single cam. The working of the VTEC system is identical to a b-series as far as I know (minus a cam).
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 09:26 AM
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Yeah, there is SOHC VTEC (we call it wimpy VTEC where I live) and then DOHC VTEC which is what everyone loves the B-series engines for.

SOHC VTEC is similar, but it doesn't produce such a kick in the paints like DOHC VTEC simply because DOHC VTEC has two cams, one for low RPM, one for higher.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 09:31 AM
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over here we call it slowtec

but i can tcomplain caus ei has 27 over my engine
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