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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 11:36 PM
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i was mounting my STR rail on my h22 head when i noticed it wasnt gonna work. . the stock rail has the fuel bolt on top and the STR has it out the side... theres a small blk canister lookin thing with a plug on the side in the way????? what is that and can i do without it or am i stuck with a stock RAIL 4ever? ? ? please help
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Old Oct 18, 2003 | 10:49 AM
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The black thing is the egr, you need to make a block off plate for it so that it would fit.
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Old Oct 18, 2003 | 02:01 PM
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perfect i was hoping it was the egr....
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Old Oct 18, 2003 | 07:15 PM
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Dude, my STR fuel rail is messed up. I must've gotten a fluke or else it must've been boxed wrong. The mounting holes lined up, but there was no way I could've bolted it down. Plus, the aluminum spacers that STR provided would no allow the fuel injectors to seat properly. That reminds me, I need to email STR about this.

I hope your install goes well...post pics if you can.

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Old Oct 18, 2003 | 11:32 PM
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hmm mine didnt come with aluminum spacers... i bought it off a fellow HT member... opened but unused... so idk if im missin somethin im gonna try and mount it tomm ill see how it goes.
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Old Oct 20, 2003 | 11:40 AM
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We have sold several Fuel Rails and people manage to install them w/o a hitch. Some people are just not mechanically inclined, it's ok and nothing to be ashamed of. We always have the tech's available to help you out. I hop you didn't think with the 10,000 plus fuel rails we have sold, that you, with your 2 posts coming on here saying STR sucks that people would actually believe you. It's really too bad you could have called and we could have helped you out, instead you come and blatenly say we suck...Nice.
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Old Oct 20, 2003 | 11:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by STR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We have sold several Fuel Rails and people manage to install them w/o a hitch. Some people are just not mechanically inclined, it's ok and nothing to be ashamed of. We always have the tech's available to help you out. I hop you didn't think with the 10,000 plus fuel rails we have sold, that you, with your 2 posts coming on here saying STR sucks that people would actually believe you. It's really too bad you could have called and we could have helped you out, instead you come and blatenly say we suck...Nice. </TD></TR></TABLE>
hahahaha..... i love it when people try to talk ****, not realizing that most companys out there that make real performance parts for our cars have someone that is a member on this board

to STR for "keepin things real y0"
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 04:28 AM
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I'd have to agree with priatemcfred, at least where the STR H22 fuel rail is concerned. Unfortunately I have experience with this part: it doesn't fit and I'm obviously not the only one who thinks this. The EGR is only part of the problem. The spacers/mounting tabs just plain aren't right. Also, STR's smartass remark above is more help than I ever got from six long distance calls to them. Let me illustrate for us "not mechanically inclined" types:



Notice which fuel rail fits, and which requires fabrication of spacers. Not only do you have make shorter spacers so the injectors will seat (notice the mounting tabs on the STR are on the same plane as the injector holes), another set of spacers needs to be made for the back side because the bolts are now too long. Notice how there is not really any room here for a backspacer, so I ended up modifying the mounting bolts on a lathe so they were shorter.

Now maybe this is how they intended it to be. Maybe "mechanically inclined" includes having access to a machine shop to do an install that doesn't involve duct tape and bailing wire. Maybe I'm way off base, but when I pay that much for a simple part, it would be nice if it would fit right. I suspect they just took their B series design and re-spaced the injector and mounting holes. Let the flames begin...
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 05:11 AM
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Pictures says a thousand words.. Waiting for reply..
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 09:24 AM
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I'm glad I didn't buy an STR FR after all. I got the AEM instead and have no problems.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 09:44 AM
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i had debated the STR vs AEM, went with the AEM since i got a really good deal on it. had absolutely no problems installing it. only took about 30 min, no leaks, no problems since.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 10:13 AM
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i had to completely remove the spacers for my AEM Rail on both my stock intake manifold and on my Golden Eagle manifold
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 09:59 PM
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I am not ignoring the post. I will post pics on how to do this. As you can see from your pictures you are using the the stock prelude spacers . That is why we include spacers with every fuel rail kit we sell for the h22 and 23 as well as injector o-rings and all the correct fittings for stock apps. As you can see the two rails are different. the injector inlet on the stock rail is actually lower than mount area and on our rail the surface is even. Therefore the stock spacer will not work. You showing that picture is like showing an apple and telling people it looks nothing like an orange. My comments on not being mechanically inclined means some people are not mechanically inclined thats why we have a tech line, but I was mainly referring to the tool with 2 posts who badgered STR...c'mon. I am here to help you if there is something actually wrong with any of our products let me know give me a call your input is what helps our products succeed.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 07:48 AM
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When you make/get the block off plate for the EGR the computer will throw a code. So your engine light will light up. You can get the EGR disabled in the ECU (in the GSR, civic ECU's. It is hard to modify the p13/14's). I don't know how much it will cost but otherwise you can just live with it until you do enough upgrades that you need to remap the fuel tables and do it then. just to let you know.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 08:03 AM
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i will be runnin the aem ems anyway. .

AND STR can u hook me up with the spacers? a fellow HT member sold me the rail and didnt include them this would help greatly and keep me from sellin it to get a AEM .
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 08:10 AM
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so you are doing an h23/h22 frankenstein? what kind of internals?
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 02:05 PM
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Yes, that will not be a problem. Plesae PM your address I tried to get you but you have you PM closed.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 09:23 PM
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sent u a email STR, thanks in advance. btw i think i got my IMs enabled now
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 10:19 PM
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You know I was wondering why someone would be so defensive and then actually agree with piratemcfred unless they were the same person . Now why would you do that...?
Damn man that is just ridiculous...
I even PM'd you to figure this one out...
whop whop whop wow
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 10:31 PM
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Yup, flyrod = PirateMcFred
How can you say you agree with PirateMcFred when you guys share the same IP and is the same person?

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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 10:38 PM
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In case nobody understood what I said, I matched the IP and this guy is a fake!! Doesnt have the ***** to come out with his real name so he makes a fake one to talk ****. Real smart..
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 10:47 PM
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Flyrod = PirateMcFred = 209.12.73.154

Please ignore him STR. I was going to lock this thread but it is tech related and will serve for help in the future to other members looking to run your rail in the future.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 10:54 PM
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I only had to sand down the spacers a little, but had no other problems. The egr had already been removed.
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 02:05 AM
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hey str , why dont you make a d series fuel rail huh??
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 04:51 AM
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Hello, I am not Flyrod. I am his brother. What do need SSN's or picturtes? The edit is disrespectful and harmful to my brother's effort to be a HT member in good standing. We work together and use the same termainal occasionally. Since we do sometimes we accidentally post under eachother's names. This is no lie and I would like to edit the STR post back to the way it was and not associate me with my brother in any negitive capacity. Perhaps an admin can post vindicating us from the present posts stating that we are one and the same. Since everyone is soo pissed off that I only have 6 posts or whatever. I am supposedly a NOOB. I came to this board to read and have fun and learn and express my experiences. Not be treated like ****. I dislike the exclusionist tendencies of this board. What is all of this crap, some sort of initiation in to HT?
Oh God no there can't be two people at work posting to HT in the same Forum on the same day, from the same IP. Congratulations Arturbo, your jumping to conclusions has really paid off, you stupid supersleuth. And then an admin steps in and allows for an explanation, thanks guys . What is wrong with everyone? Is STR's product so good that anyone stating an opinion is put-down? Go ahead and LOOK at all of the other negitive feedback people's Ip addresses and see if I am all of those people too. This kind of SH*T is so frustrating.

Someone Please Rectify this.
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