Finally got the R to the strip to see what kind of times i could put down..
I'm not much of a dragger, this was my second time ever at a strip, and my first time in the R (went last year in my GS-R). It was pretty packed at keystone here in PA, i got three runs in, each better than the last as i learned how to launch the car and drag in general. Full interior, spare, a few tools etc. 1/2 tank of gas.
1st run against a Gen2 integra with a B16A engine swap and lots of bolt ons, VAFC etc. 3500 RPM lanuch, roughly (and i don't feather the clutch) I'm left lane each time.
2nd run against the same car, had a better launch after people told me to rev higher at the start than i was, but i bumped the rev limiter in 2nd...doh! 4000 RPM launch
last run against an older (late 80s? before they started looking like they do now, the boxier ones) Mustang with cobra markings and SVT wheels, guy said it was a 302 engine when i asked if it was a 6 or an 8, he was a very cool guy, had never heard of a type R. After the race, he asked me stuff that we all love to hear..."so is it supercharged? how big's the engine? it redlines how high!?!"
5000 RPM launch (significant wheelspin at launch, but my best ET)
Had fun, i'm sure i'll return someday to see if i can break into 14s, but alot of waiting for going in a straight line, autoX and track more to my liking.
1st run against a Gen2 integra with a B16A engine swap and lots of bolt ons, VAFC etc. 3500 RPM lanuch, roughly (and i don't feather the clutch) I'm left lane each time.
2nd run against the same car, had a better launch after people told me to rev higher at the start than i was, but i bumped the rev limiter in 2nd...doh! 4000 RPM launch
last run against an older (late 80s? before they started looking like they do now, the boxier ones) Mustang with cobra markings and SVT wheels, guy said it was a 302 engine when i asked if it was a 6 or an 8, he was a very cool guy, had never heard of a type R. After the race, he asked me stuff that we all love to hear..."so is it supercharged? how big's the engine? it redlines how high!?!"
5000 RPM launch (significant wheelspin at launch, but my best ET)
Had fun, i'm sure i'll return someday to see if i can break into 14s, but alot of waiting for going in a straight line, autoX and track more to my liking.
a lot of waiting for going in a straight line, autoX and track more to my liking.

True.... but still fun to go everyonce in a while....
Nice times. Getting better

R/T on the last run roxzor!
Will

-who needs to go again since the AEM and header have been installed....
yeah, i'm sure the car has a 14.7 in there at least, but it would take me a while to get there driver/clutch abuse wise, and i'm not going to do that to the car. Yeah, nice to win, and i was a few tenths faster than a white Type R with IHE and ACT clutch, so i know the car is good....anyone have a link to relative elevation pages? We're about 3000 feet above sea level, wonder how much difference that makes.
it was around 80 degrees, and above 80% humidity...pretty cool day comapred to the month, actually
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Its for Camaro's, hehe, but the principles are the same.
Friday, August 31, 2001
Environmental Conditions:
Temp: 80ºF Relative Humidity: 80%
Dewpoint: 73.3ºF Station Pressure: 26.76"
Actual Altitude: 3000' Density Altitude: 5415'
Uncorrected ET/MPH:
15.070 @ 94.12 MPH
Corrected ET/MPH:
Actual Altitude: 14.48 @ 98.07 MPH
Density Altitude: 14.009 @ 101.25 MPH
That's what I came up with for you. Altitude correction takes into account just the 3000' ASL reading. Density altitude factors in the temp/humidity as effectively, it adds elevation on top of the 3000'. Take these with a grain of salt, corrected I run a 14.0@101 as well, but since the slip reads 14.5, I quote 14.5. HTH, EV.
Its for Camaro's, hehe, but the principles are the same.
Friday, August 31, 2001
Environmental Conditions:
Temp: 80ºF Relative Humidity: 80%
Dewpoint: 73.3ºF Station Pressure: 26.76"
Actual Altitude: 3000' Density Altitude: 5415'
Uncorrected ET/MPH:
15.070 @ 94.12 MPH
Corrected ET/MPH:
Actual Altitude: 14.48 @ 98.07 MPH
Density Altitude: 14.009 @ 101.25 MPH
That's what I came up with for you. Altitude correction takes into account just the 3000' ASL reading. Density altitude factors in the temp/humidity as effectively, it adds elevation on top of the 3000'. Take these with a grain of salt, corrected I run a 14.0@101 as well, but since the slip reads 14.5, I quote 14.5. HTH, EV.
what's the elevation there? You should be able to pull a 2.2 60' time which should drop your 1/4 mi times by around .4 sec. That should put you in 14.6 - 14.7 range. The best I've got where I live is a 2.3 60' time and w/ that same start a 15.4 w/ a trap of about 90mph. Go figure, maybe your R is just faster, heh.
next in line is an autopower 4-point, sparco evo seat, harness, and as much track time and experience as i can afford (plus probably another set of Kumhos, and maybe a winter wheel/tire combo). Performance wise, gonna put some track-capable brake pads on, and then just wait for stuff to get old and need replacement.
D hasn't run his at a strip, now that he's down in orlando i think he might join some of his fellow grad students one day. We did a couple of 4th-gear pulls from about 40 to 120 and the cars were nearly identically matched, so i'm going to guess that it would be capable of similar times.
next in line is an autopower 4-point, sparco evo seat, harness, and as much track time and experience as i can afford (plus probably another set of Kumhos, and maybe a winter wheel/tire combo). Performance wise, gonna put some track-capable brake pads on, and then just wait for stuff to get old and need replacement.
Learn to drive. 2.0-2.1 60' are possible. If I can do it with a GSR tranny, you can do it with an R tranny. 2.0 60' = 14.3 or so in your car. Cool huh. I've seen it done... practice practice my man...
That was just a few weeks ago, mods vs. mods, but my volks are lighter than his stock rims, so that counts for something. 401-2001, thanks for the offer, i've got a line on some steelies, but i may well talk to you about tires soon. Still debating what the master plan is gonna be (winter tires on stock wheels and victoracers on K1s? winter on steelies and V700s on stock? or maybe go all out and get some Kumho R700 rally tires for the winter!!!)
I know this may sound really stupid and all (I may get chewed out for this), but 2 years ago we put studded tires on my buddy's GSR. It's funny to watch all the 4WD SUV staring at us fly by em with this look like "How the hell...". It's leagal for PA from November 1 and April 15.
Hey one other thing...you said that you don't drag too much, but did anyone show you how to properly double-clutch? It could help you shave a little time off, plus it helps to avoid the popular "slipping clutch" syndrome.
double clutching an upshift? I wasn't having any trouble getting it in to gear rifle-quick, never have...shifts take almost no time, even with full depression of clutch. I don't see how double clutching would make upshifting any faster for drag racing, and it's really not necessairy on a car with synchros as far as i know, and even then, upshifting usually brings the RPMs into range while you're making the shift. Am i missing something here? Perhaps you mean something else by double-clutching? (Where you put the clutch in, put the gear in neutral between gears, let the clutch out, bring up the revs to match the next intended gear, put the clutch back in, put the car into the intended gear, and then let the clutch out, with the engine speed already matched)
Am i missing something here? Perhaps you mean something else by double-clutching? (Where you put the clutch in, put the gear in neutral between gears, let the clutch out, bring up the revs to match the next intended gear, put the clutch back in, put the car into the intended gear, and then let the clutch out, with the engine speed already matched)
. He's throwing around a "term" he heard at Speed of Sound . What he's talking about is when you use your toe and heel so that you can be in gear, yet your still pressing the brake. Does that make sense? I even forget what that's called although I've seen it done at the track.
sup buddy..... how did JC fare this week? just curious...
seems that you failed to mention that you're running on cheater volks.... i say when i get back during xmas break, we swap wheels and see how it goes then bro...
heh..
double clutching? wtf u talking bout.
D
btw, that first RT sucked a phat one. :fuckyou:
[Modified by D, 10:06 PM 8/31/2001]
seems that you failed to mention that you're running on cheater volks.... i say when i get back during xmas break, we swap wheels and see how it goes then bro...
heh..
double clutching? wtf u talking bout.
D
btw, that first RT sucked a phat one. :fuckyou:
[Modified by D, 10:06 PM 8/31/2001]
Hey D(ickhead), yeah, my cheater volks spanq j00, but you're used to loosing to me, so whatever
You can try the volks when you pry them from my cold, dead hubs 
And yeah, my first RT sucked, i was on the phone with yer mom and the ho distracted me.
As for "double clutching", they do throw that term out in "Fast and the furious"...i think vin says something like "granny-shifting, not double clutching like you should"...which is one of the more laughable lines in the film, since it makes ABSOULTELY no sense in a drag racing context, and double clutching hasn't been necessairy since synchros become the norm in like the 1970s or something. You're referring to heel-and-toeing (which is usually accomplished today with the ball and edge of your right foot), allowing you to blip the throttle on each downshift while braking, which allows you to drop gears for acceleration out of a turn without upsetting the car's balance under braking. You don't touch the brake during a drag race (until it's over), and even then, you're only upshifting, so it's not necessairy. I swear by the technique on the track tho, and practice it on the street as much as possible so when i need to do it in a race context it's second nature. (took a few weeks before i was able to do it, and a pedal kit to bring the brake and gas closer helps alot too)
[Modified by Aleph, 10:22 PM 8/31/2001]
You can try the volks when you pry them from my cold, dead hubs 
And yeah, my first RT sucked, i was on the phone with yer mom and the ho distracted me.
As for "double clutching", they do throw that term out in "Fast and the furious"...i think vin says something like "granny-shifting, not double clutching like you should"...which is one of the more laughable lines in the film, since it makes ABSOULTELY no sense in a drag racing context, and double clutching hasn't been necessairy since synchros become the norm in like the 1970s or something. You're referring to heel-and-toeing (which is usually accomplished today with the ball and edge of your right foot), allowing you to blip the throttle on each downshift while braking, which allows you to drop gears for acceleration out of a turn without upsetting the car's balance under braking. You don't touch the brake during a drag race (until it's over), and even then, you're only upshifting, so it's not necessairy. I swear by the technique on the track tho, and practice it on the street as much as possible so when i need to do it in a race context it's second nature. (took a few weeks before i was able to do it, and a pedal kit to bring the brake and gas closer helps alot too)
[Modified by Aleph, 10:22 PM 8/31/2001]



