Darton sleeved block with sunk sleeves. can it be FIXED??????

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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 12:32 PM
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Default Darton sleeved block with sunk sleeves. can it be FIXED??????

I Have a friend that has a darton sleeved block and #2-3 cylinders have sunk. is there a way to repair that???? Adn do you know the approximate cost to fix it? thank you
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 12:47 PM
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how long did he have it before they sunk? he should be able to send it back to Darton
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 02:58 PM
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John 3 and 4 are sunk not 2 and 3.
Block had 1200 miles on it when they sunk. It's sitting in the garage now collecting dust.
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 03:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blue99turbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">John 3 and 4 are sunk not 2 and 3.
Block had 1200 miles on it when they sunk. It's sitting in the garage now collecting dust. </TD></TR></TABLE>

why dont you call Darton and see what can be done
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 05:33 AM
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Nobody else has any info on this????? I will call darton but we are not setup with them. does it matter???? Also I believe the sleeves were not installed by darton but by a machine shop in Ohio somewhere. The sleeves sunk before 99Blueturbo even got his car back on the road. dont quote me on that though&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;.
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 05:39 AM
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If they only sunk a couple of thousandths, you can have the block milled to level everything out. You need to be sure that they have settled, and it depends on what type of sleeves they are as to how they "seat". You should send it back to the machine shop that installed them, they should know what to do with it.
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 06:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by intercooledJRSC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nobody else has any info on this????? I will call darton but we are not setup with them. does it matter???? Also I believe the sleeves were not installed by darton but by a machine shop in Ohio somewhere. The sleeves sunk before 99Blueturbo even got his car back on the road. dont quote me on that though&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Send the motor back to the installer.Obviously they didn't do something right.
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 06:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by espanol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Send the motor back to the installer.Obviously they didn't do something right.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sounds reasonable to me...
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 08:47 AM
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Default Re: Darton sleeved block with sunk sleeves. can it be FIXED?????? (intercooledJRSC)

where are all the GE haters and darton supporters now?? Like i have always said that GE has less failure rate than darton because their sleeves are installed exclusively at GE. they sleeve more blocks then the top darton machine shops combined. Of course there will be an issue here or there when you sleeve 1000+ blocks a year.
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 09:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MotorMatrix.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">where are all the GE haters and darton supporters now?? Like i have always said that GE has less failure rate than darton because their sleeves are installed exclusively at GE. they sleeve more blocks then the top darton machine shops combined. Of course there will be an issue here or there when you sleeve 1000+ blocks a year.</TD></TR></TABLE>

it's getting hard to find good machine shops these days..i never had sealing, leaking, or sinking problems w/ my ge block..let's see how my darton sleeved block holds up.
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 09:19 AM
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I still support Darton Golden Eagle also gets a

As stated before, the machine shop is at fault for the sleeve dropping.
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 09:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by espanol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
..let's see how my darton sleeved block holds up.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Lets....
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 10:37 AM
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I got the best of both worlds..

Darton sleeves installed by GE
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 11:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Alstare &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I got the best of both worlds..

Darton sleeves installed by GE </TD></TR></TABLE>

They do that? LOL!

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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 12:01 PM
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Indeed...
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 12:09 PM
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Ok here is an update. I have found out that the sleeves were installed by jotech. Tony1 or Javier were the one who were being dealt with at the time of the initial build. Like 99blue turbo said the sleeves sunk when the motor had about 1200 miles on it. Do you think they would fix this??? the reason I am asking is I might buy the block if it is possible to be fixed. But if it is going to cost the same as sleeving a non sleeved block from the get go then **** it. I have a greddy turbo kit for my 99Si and I know that that turbo doesnt need a sleeved block but I also wanted to have the ability to upgrade to a 75 DP setup along with the turbo and a sleeved block would make more sence. if I am forced to do a stock block then I will never use the N20 and the turbo. BTW the block was done about 1.5 years ago. what do you all think??????? thnak you so much for all the advice!!!
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 12:12 PM
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since when does jotech have a machine shop??
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 12:46 PM
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are u sure it was jotech that did it? When did they start machining?
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 05:42 PM
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why dont you call darton and see what you get. They are going to blame the machine shop and the machine shop is going to blame darton.
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 06:25 PM
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How can the machine shop blame darton, unless all they did was send the block out to darton in the first place? Check out how far they sunk and like tempest said, get a machine shop to skim the top of the block until its level.
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 06:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MotorMatrix.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">where are all the GE haters and darton supporters now?? Like i have always said that GE has less failure rate than darton because their sleeves are installed exclusively at GE. they sleeve more blocks then the top darton machine shops combined. Of course there will be an issue here or there when you sleeve 1000+ blocks a year.</TD></TR></TABLE>




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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 07:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Redlineracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Check out how far they sunk and like tempest said, get a machine shop to skim the top of the block until its level.</TD></TR></TABLE>That is the problem with having a machine shop install sleeves when they don't do that on a daily basis. JoTech buys their blocks from both RS and GE, so I'm sure they had nothing to do with installing the sleeves in that block.
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 07:43 PM
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not all machine shops are equal.
if one doesnt have much experience with honda motors. DONT GO THERE.
plain and simple.
im not saying this was the case in this situation . Im talking in general to anyone who is going to get dartons installed somewhere
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 07:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by earl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> JoTech buys there blocks from both RS and GE, so I'm sure they had nothing to do with installing the sleeves in that block.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I could have sworn they went to Car Quest for machine work.
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 07:56 PM
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