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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 06:13 PM
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I was just reading in the new Hot Rod that they banned it for all professional and sportsman classes because of its slew control technology.Suppose to be like traction control once you set it up right.
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 07:25 PM
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What is slew control?
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 08:08 PM
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basically it controls the engines rate of accelaration with the rev limiter and timing
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 08:26 PM
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WTF are u serious? I have this in my ******* car!!! well i have the digital 7 plus programable, is that the same thing?

If it can work like a traction control, how the **** do u set it up is what i would like to know
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 08:40 PM
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oh yeah,dead serious,get ready to hide it inside your heater box if you plan on running in the NHRA/IHRA with it ..I'm really not good at explaining things cause my grammar skills suck,your best bet is to pick up the Nov issue of Hot-Rod.Its got a nice write-up inside.
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 08:55 PM
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That would be some ****, and will make alot of people unhappy, hehe
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 09:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D-Man &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh yeah,dead serious,get ready to hide it inside your heater box if you plan on running in the NHRA/IHRA with it ..I'm really not good at explaining things cause my grammar skills suck,your best bet is to pick up the Nov issue of Hot-Rod.Its got a nice write-up inside.</TD></TR></TABLE>

whats on the cover?
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 09:33 PM
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It's P/N 7531 only. http://www.dragracingonline.co....html. I've *heard* that this is what a certain Pro FWD on the verge of 7's is running. But don't quote me on that.
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 10:00 PM
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aint that some ****, thats my ******* ignition system

man, i didnt even know my **** could do all that, i need someone to teach me those things...
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 10:28 PM
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oh oh

watch there going to bann motec system then.
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 10:29 PM
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Im sure they'll let the box slide. But traction control in any form is a no no....-pdang
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 01:15 AM
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Id call the slew control more of a "consistency adder", it would help someone salvage a decent run ona bad track.
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 02:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lugnuts &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Id call the slew control more of a "consistency adder", it would help someone salvage a decent run ona bad track.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The driver's skill is supposed to counteract track conditions not a computer. What's the point of having a driver if all he has to do is push on a pedal and keep a car straight?
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 02:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Redlineracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The driver's skill is supposed to counteract track conditions not a computer. What's the point of having a driver if all he has to do is push on a pedal and keep a car straight?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Haha, you mean like a cavaleir?
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 04:06 AM
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expect a whole bunch of rule changes, like backing down turbo sizes and a whole bunch of stuff. the mid rule changes we got earlier was just the tip of the iceberg. also rumor has it that summit is backing out for next year and the bid is open to MCDONALDS and COCA COLA. so far from what i hear the bid is at 3mill$ and Micky D's is winning. SO how do you like the sound of "THE MC DONALDS SPORT COMPACT RACING SERIES."
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 04:30 AM
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dude I love mcdonalds, if I can go race at nhra and get a double cheese, I am gonna be real happy oh by the way the regualr msd programable digital ignition is part# 7530 so it is different than the one d-man is talking about, I know for a fact that there is no slew control or traction control type options on a the "7530" , most people here that have the digital have that one, the only traction control it has is 3 stage rev limit , launch, burnout, and max rpm. I hope they dont man my 6al Jason
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 04:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoogieDownBrown &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">expect a whole bunch of rule changes, like backing down turbo sizes and a whole bunch of stuff. the mid rule changes we got earlier was just the tip of the iceberg. also rumor has it that summit is backing out for next year and the bid is open to MCDONALDS and COCA COLA. so far from what i hear the bid is at 3mill$ and Micky D's is winning. SO how do you like the sound of "THE MC DONALDS SPORT COMPACT RACING SERIES."</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh yeah sure, start making turbo size rules as soon as I just get my turbo. Oh well. Hopefully I'll still be in spec. if not I'll just have to go with the flow.
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 07:17 AM
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Hmm, not only Motecs, but also the AEM EMS now as the traction control system there works the same way (engine rpm acceleration rate in each gear).

Policing this stuff is going to be as difficult as it is in F1 - which means eventually they won't be able to police it. On carb. cars or mechanical fuel injection (NASCAR, Pro Stock, Top Fuel, etc.) its much easier to watch than it is on cars that depend on fuel injection computers....

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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 08:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Redlineracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Oh yeah sure, start making turbo size rules as soon as I just get my turbo. Oh well. Hopefully I'll still be in spec. if not I'll just have to go with the flow.</TD></TR></TABLE>


basically the reason for backing the turbo sizes down is that the pro stock guys were whining about us import guys being faster than them. plus NHRA has a concern with us running 180 mph in a front wheel drive unibody car. they feel that we aren't experienced enough to drive that fast so early in this sport. they can't except the fact that technology has advanced so much compared to back then when it took them forever just to start running 300 mph.
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 08:48 AM
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well I think they should realize that it is easier to pull than push cars are going to be fast there's no stopping it. A 9 sec quarter is a 9 sec quarter whether you do it at 130mph or 180mph.
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 09:59 AM
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actually isnt pushing a car easier
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 10:00 AM
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not when the wheels and tires are doing all the work
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 12:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ninesecrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Haha, you mean like a cavaleir?</TD></TR></TABLE>

They can't even keep them straight down the track 90% of the time though.
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there was a thread about the traction control capabilities of that system a while ago
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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 02:45 PM
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Dude how the **** do you get your avatar to do that??
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