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Would you buy an AIR intake manifold....
Would you buy an AIR intake manifold??? the situation is where you had the money,etc... please reply or put in some input.
If you want to look at the intake its at the AIR Site.
http://www.advancedinductionresearch.com/
Modified by chrisCNL at 8:09 AM 10/11/2003
If you want to look at the intake its at the AIR Site.
http://www.advancedinductionresearch.com/
Modified by chrisCNL at 8:09 AM 10/11/2003
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Re: (Kikomon)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kikomon »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont get the question 
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If the expence wasn't an issue would you buy the plenum as apposed to a different one?
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</TD></TR></TABLE>If the expence wasn't an issue would you buy the plenum as apposed to a different one?
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Re: (vtecvoodoo)
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Saw you were the last to post, saw a vote for no, put 2 and 2 together before scrolling down.
What a hatter you are. J/K
Saw you were the last to post, saw a vote for no, put 2 and 2 together before scrolling down.
What a hatter you are. J/K
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Re: (vtecvoodoo)
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For that price of that manifold, I`d buy a beater car
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$1895 
For that price of that manifold, I`d buy a beater car
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Re: Would you buy an AIR intake manifold.... (chrisCNL)
On DTR's race car the AIR manifold only made +1 peak HP over the Extrude honed skunk2 manifold but did however raise the peak from 8200 toaround 9000...
For the money its not worth it... Figuring ITB's are just about the same price and the extrude honed S2 manifold is a mere fraction of that.
If your going to drop that kinda cash on a part then your serious about the build, if your serious about the build then Id say go with ITB's...
If your looking to stay with an IM... Skunk2 IM Extrude Honed for a fraction of the AIR manifold price and nearly exact peak HP gains...
Think of what you can get for that price... Extrunde Honed S2 manifold ($700), AN-R header or other similarly priced header ($530), 70mm tapered TB ($300), Custome 2.5-3 inch exhaust ($250)
Thats going to make gobs of power over the AIR manifold and will cost you about the same...
Modified by RS_H22 at 6:59 PM 10/11/2003
For the money its not worth it... Figuring ITB's are just about the same price and the extrude honed S2 manifold is a mere fraction of that.
If your going to drop that kinda cash on a part then your serious about the build, if your serious about the build then Id say go with ITB's...
If your looking to stay with an IM... Skunk2 IM Extrude Honed for a fraction of the AIR manifold price and nearly exact peak HP gains...
Think of what you can get for that price... Extrunde Honed S2 manifold ($700), AN-R header or other similarly priced header ($530), 70mm tapered TB ($300), Custome 2.5-3 inch exhaust ($250)
Thats going to make gobs of power over the AIR manifold and will cost you about the same...
Modified by RS_H22 at 6:59 PM 10/11/2003
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Re: (Kikomon)
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YES I AM</TD></TR></TABLE>
Here, have unlimited money.
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Here, have unlimited money.
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Re: Would you buy an AIR intake manifold.... (RS_H22)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RS_H22 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On DTR's race car the AIR manifold only made +1 peak HP over the Extrude honed skunk2 manifold but did however raise the peak from 8200 toaround 9000...
For the money its not worth it... Figuring ITB's are just about the same price and the extrude honed S2 manifold is a mere fraction of that.
If your going to drop that kinda cash on a part then your serious about the build, if your serious about the build then Id say go with ITB's...
If your looking to stay with an IM... Skunk2 IM Extrude Honed for a fraction of the AIR manifold price and nearly exact peak HP gains...
Think of what you can get for that price... Extrunde Honed S2 manifold ($700), AN-R header or other similarly priced header ($530), 70mm tapered TB ($300), Custome 2.5-3 inch exhaust ($250)
Thats going to make gobs of power over the AIR manifold and will cost you about the same...
Modified by RS_H22 at 6:59 PM 10/11/2003</TD></TR></TABLE>
For the money its not worth it... Figuring ITB's are just about the same price and the extrude honed S2 manifold is a mere fraction of that.
If your going to drop that kinda cash on a part then your serious about the build, if your serious about the build then Id say go with ITB's...
If your looking to stay with an IM... Skunk2 IM Extrude Honed for a fraction of the AIR manifold price and nearly exact peak HP gains...
Think of what you can get for that price... Extrunde Honed S2 manifold ($700), AN-R header or other similarly priced header ($530), 70mm tapered TB ($300), Custome 2.5-3 inch exhaust ($250)
Thats going to make gobs of power over the AIR manifold and will cost you about the same...
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Re: Would you buy an AIR intake manifold.... (chrisCNL)
The only complaint I have about the AIR manifold is that its so damn expensive... its a quality piece its just $$ for HP its a little up there in price... if the price were to come down to the say $600 it would be an awesome $$ for HP investment, then Id say got with it over the other options I listed.
Modified by RS_H22 at 8:28 PM 10/11/2003
Modified by RS_H22 at 8:28 PM 10/11/2003
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Re: Would you buy an AIR intake manifold.... (RS_H22)
I was thinking of TWM ITB but nobody in Nor*Cal knows how to tune the damn thing. Well just use the AIR for now and if it does not work good i already know someone that will pick up the ITM from us.
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Re: Would you buy an AIR intake manifold.... (RS_H22)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RS_H22 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On DTR's race car the AIR manifold only made +1 peak HP over the Extrude honed skunk2 manifold but did however raise the peak from 8200 toaround 9000...
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This manifold.. made tons of power... i tried a STR a JG manifold.. and over all that my extrude hone ITR rips on these... there is a difference between making maximum horsepower and usable horsepower and this AIR manifold did its job...
on my dyno with the Extrude ITR my peek horsepower was at 8000-8100 RPM at 245hp but it proceed to drop off.. by the time i was at 9200RPM it only made 236-237 almost a 8 hp lost ... when i swapped to the AIR manifold.. it broaden really well.. so now at 8000 rpm i was making 241 hp and at 9200 i made close to 247hp so yeah i only gain 1-2 overall horsepower but my top end now yielded close to 7-8 hp which is a big difference for just a manifold swap... as far as ITB ive heard mix results from it.. some people swear by it..and ive seen ITBs fall flat of it face and people regret ever purchasing them so...
Bottom line this AIR manifold was worth every penny, every well designed and built no problems with install at all and worked like a charm.... $1800? i dont remember seeing it for that price i got to double check that with Larry..
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This manifold.. made tons of power... i tried a STR a JG manifold.. and over all that my extrude hone ITR rips on these... there is a difference between making maximum horsepower and usable horsepower and this AIR manifold did its job...
on my dyno with the Extrude ITR my peek horsepower was at 8000-8100 RPM at 245hp but it proceed to drop off.. by the time i was at 9200RPM it only made 236-237 almost a 8 hp lost ... when i swapped to the AIR manifold.. it broaden really well.. so now at 8000 rpm i was making 241 hp and at 9200 i made close to 247hp so yeah i only gain 1-2 overall horsepower but my top end now yielded close to 7-8 hp which is a big difference for just a manifold swap... as far as ITB ive heard mix results from it.. some people swear by it..and ive seen ITBs fall flat of it face and people regret ever purchasing them so...
Bottom line this AIR manifold was worth every penny, every well designed and built no problems with install at all and worked like a charm.... $1800? i dont remember seeing it for that price i got to double check that with Larry..
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Re: Would you buy an AIR intake manifold.... (FTR11secALLMOTOR)
A +8 at a higher rpm and -8 at a lower rpm... no real power gains, just a shift in the power curve/peak points... Which is good but not $1895 good
The price is listed as $1895 on the AIR site.... They are being sold alot lower because it is a new product with special introductory pricing...
For a full drag car with a big budget and a motor that never sees rpms below 8k it might be worth it, for a guy with a budget driving his car everyday between 3-7000 rpm looking to have a quick street/strip car... not worth it IMO..
There are far more affordable alternatives out there that yield similar results...
Modified by RS_H22 at 11:43 PM 10/11/2003
The price is listed as $1895 on the AIR site.... They are being sold alot lower because it is a new product with special introductory pricing...
For a full drag car with a big budget and a motor that never sees rpms below 8k it might be worth it, for a guy with a budget driving his car everyday between 3-7000 rpm looking to have a quick street/strip car... not worth it IMO..
There are far more affordable alternatives out there that yield similar results...
Modified by RS_H22 at 11:43 PM 10/11/2003
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Re: Would you buy an AIR intake manifold.... (RS_H22)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RS_H22 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its a quality piece its just $$ for HP its a little up there in price...
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hey I saw one and it said made in mexico! so how much does it really cost to make?
I mean if you spend that kind of money you might as well get itb's. I mean there is just so many things that can influence a motors hp output. just like everyones motors are not the same the gaisn will also not be the same.
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hey I saw one and it said made in mexico! so how much does it really cost to make?
I mean if you spend that kind of money you might as well get itb's. I mean there is just so many things that can influence a motors hp output. just like everyones motors are not the same the gaisn will also not be the same.
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Re: Would you buy an AIR intake manifold.... (ALLMTRWHORE)
you would be suprised what a piece like that actually costs to make... I checked into having our IM's done in carbon fiber a while ago... The initial molds and 1st production runs are pricey but after that... yeah, there making a killing selling that thing at $1895... They can afford to go down to $600 and still sleep and eat pretty damn well... Maybe what your paying for is research? Well untill someone else comes along and dup's it youll have to pay for their research and development... the copy cats however wont be charging you for R&D...
