im puttin p30 pistons and a 2 layer hg on my b17 block b16 head combo i was wondering what kinda numbers i couuld pull w/ ctr cams and a nice intake / exhaust combo

 

maybe 170 whp with good tuning. Its really just basically a B16 with a bit more stroke.

 

cool just what im looking for.... alright where can i get some pics of a p61 piston i was worried about valve clearence problems with ctr intake cam and 2 or 1 layer

 

you'll be fine

 

even though it's a 1.7 the tq curve isn't that impressive. I would also stick with the oem 3 layer gasket, you literally gaining nothing with a 2 layer expect for potential future loss of your constructed gasket.

 

hrm really i figured .5 compression bump would be a good choice... grrrrr

 

with my B17 block and B16 head I got 181 to the wheels. Had PnP, CTR cams, CTR pistons, 11.7-1 cr, 64 mm tb, and I think that was it. Well nitrous but with that i put down 229 whp.

 

ls vtec is looking MUCH more tempting

 

If you go LSVTEC why not just go CRVTEC for a better torque curve and little more lowend?

 

ls bottom end 300 b20 bottom end 700.... :-P

 

i'll get you a full crvtec longblock for 600

 

Yes but the power difference are noticeable. Especially if you are staying all motor you cant beat the 19 or 2.0 displacement.

 

Yeah go b20vtec.. much more fun... when u do that down goes sahar .. hehe

 

high compression pistons for a b20 are expensive...
no OEM replacements.

 

i know im looking out for b20z pistons but its only JSPEC GRRRRR

 

Here was an interesting setup I pulled from team-integra.net
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you don't have your heart set on more displacement, the permutations and combinations are numerous. You just need to make sure the rods fit the piston and the crank, check that everything will fit in the deck height of the block you choose, and calculate the resultant displacement and rod ratio. As a popular recent example, many people try a B16A crank (77.4 mm) with LS rods (137 mm rod length) in a CRV block (84.5 mm bore when honed) to give 1736 cc, an oversquare layout, and a 1.77 rod ratio. You essentially build a 1.7 L Civic Type R Plus engine in your LS Integra that can rev like a bike.

</TD></TR></TABLE>

-PHiZ

 

Would anyone have a b17 crank for sale???

 

I think katman does.
-PHiZ

 

Chad has a b17a with 1 layer and cams and it ran a 8.6 eighth mile.

 

where did you find this quote.... I woun't mind reading out on different setups like what he is writing about.

 

i think the B20 will definately produce better numbers then the LS block

thin about this!

a naturally asprirated b20B block will get 200HP easily on pump gas w/ over 150lbs-ft of pulling torque!

not bad IMO

 

Team-integra.net, tech section, "swapping parts for pwer"

******* excellent site. You have to register, but it's well worth it.

-PHiZ

 

thanks!!!

 

its a toss up, on one hand you have an 84mm block with about 10:1 cr with a vtec head but you have small valve releifs

on the other you have a smaller 81mm block but you can put in some 12:1 oem pistons in there for super cheap and have the valve clearance on the piston and cr to run a big cam.

you have the potential to safely make more power with the ls block due to bigger cams/higher cr with slightly less tq or make less peak but more under the curve with 10:1 and R cams.

basically either one is a good choice but the lack of OEM (read as cheap) high cr pistons really hold the b20 back for the budget concious tuner.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JD Milan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">even though it's a 1.7 the tq curve isn't that impressive. I would also stick with the oem 3 layer gasket, you literally gaining nothing with a 2 layer expect for potential future loss of your constructed gasket.</TD></TR></TABLE>


running a 1 layer now on my b17....stock bottomend toda c's....i estimate about 180ish to the wheels