OK, my poor GSR is finally coming back together. The rebuilt engine is running pretty well now, and the car is virtually back to the way it was.

But.

A few minutes after I started it, the thing starts pouring oil out the bottom on the timing belt side. Even though it's tough to visually trace the leak, I had heard many stories of the cam oil seals, so I opened it up, and sure enough, the exhaust cam seal was shifted about 1/4" toward the pulley. I moved it back to where it belongs, and checked the intake cam seal as well. Now I run the thing, and it is still leaking, but it's a slow drip-drip-drip now. Is it possible the seal was damaged from running in the wrong location for a little while? Or maybe the seals are just worn out? I've never replaced them, to my knowledge. Has anyone had these seals leak even when they're correctly installed?

Thanks for any comments!

Started up, and now it's STILL leakin

 

even if theyre worn out it wont drip that fast...is the car running smoothly? maybe the oil is coming out between the head and block, did you replace the headgasket?

 

Replace those seals first...if it's coming from up by the cam gears, it's those and not the head gasket.

 

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It's a fresh HG... the engine runs nice and smooth, so I really doubt a HG leak. Plus, as I said, the volume of oil leaking decreased when I messed with the cam seal. So that implies I'm at least getting warm.

Anyone know how much those babies cost? (oil seals)

 

I agree that you should replace those seals first before moving on.

 

lower timing belt are and cam seal dont mix.
i believe you are referring to the crank seal. if so, it is also called the oil pump seal.
did you replace this? it is the seal behind the main pulley that has all three belts running off of it. if you did replace it, what did you use to remove it? did you scratch the housing of the seal? when reinstalling, if you did change it, is it sitting where it was, ie.. far back enough.
when i changed mine i used a socket that fit inside the area and used a mallet to tap it in.

 

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No, the issue is that when the cam seals leak, the oil tends to escape behind the timing belt covers and drip down the side of the head, down the block, and finally exit at the bottom of the engine. But it IS possible the oil pump seal could be leaking - however, I pulled the crank and looked around that area and saw no oil that appeared to be exiting from that location.

Thanks for the idea though; I'll probably return to that seal later if this doesn't work out!

 

well this one is easy. all seals should be Round and not warped or moved .25 inch. I gurrantee you that you need new cam seals and a crank pulley seal. They are really easy to replace. Remove the Tbelt and crank pulley. pick out the old seal , clean the surface, grease the inside of the new seal and hammer it in with the proper socket and a mallet. Then do the same for the cam seals behind the cam gears. Its easy and cheep. Get the parts from honda or wherever. If a seal isnt perfect of course it will leak. Just replace em!!!! Here is a tip when re installing the Cam gears notice the 1 degree of slop they have? well you can use this to your advantage. advance the intake as much as you can and retard the exhaust. I know they arent adj gears but you can get 1 degree of slop each way. This is the difference between those 14.8 seccond stock gsr's and the 15.5 seccons stock gsr's its all about not doing a shitty job!!!