Is there really such a designation as a Type S in the fifth generation preludes or do people just not know any better? Everything I've ever seen has either called it just the Prelude or Prelude base... with the SH known as PreludeType SH. Take this Honda site for example:

http://www.hondanews.com/Forms/honda...s(r)_text.html

I mean if you think about it the SH stands for "sport handling" so does that mean the so-called Type S Preludes are just plain "sport"? Doesn't seem right to me.

 

I'm a little confused as to what you're asking. Are you asking was there ever a "Type S" in the US, then the answer is no. If you are asking if there was a "Type S" made, then the answer is yes. Some people mistakenly call their 4th generation "S" designation preludes "Type S". And I believe that in Canada they might use the "S" designation for the base model (not 100% sure about that).

Here is a Honda Japan site that lists the equipment for all 5 trim levels sold in Japan. At the top you can clearly see the "Type S" designaion, you can use a translation page if you really want to see what each car is equipped with. Somewhere on the Honda Japan site they used to have a video review of some guy driving a "Type S" and his comments on it. Here's the link: http://www.honda.co.jp/HOT/ModelData...ent/index.html

Gabe

 

The type-S is/was sold in Japan and maybe europe as well.. Never brought to the USA... Some of the entirnals can yeild better performance.

 

D'OH!
All this talk of wanting to put Type S stuff into our motors is indeed a JDM 5th gen Type S. Engine as been reworked with the same logic applied to our USDM ITR motors, i.e. revised bottom and top end and intake manifold good for 220HP.

Not all the parts are directly replaceable however. For example, if you just put in Type S cams in your H22, you'll severly shorten the life of your lifters.

 

What I'm really doing is asking if it's okay to make fun of the people who say their US 5th gen is a "type s" because it's not a "type sh".

 

Unless their car is right hand drive, they're full of s**t. Fire away!

Even if they dropped in a JDM Type S motor and ECU still isn't a Type S.


[Modified by H22power, 4:31 PM 8/28/2001]

 

They didn't do anything but buy a non-SH cause they couldn't afford the extra bucks. I have a friend who calls it a type S because it's not a SH... I'm guessing he thinks dropping the H makes it a different model designation. Don't laugh, he's not the first I've encountered to do this.

 

Nope, that is just a base model..

 

Actually the JDM Type S manifold is very similar to the US spec one. It's not like on the Teg where the GSR gets the dual stage and the ITR get's the better single stage manifold. The only H series engine that gets the single stage manifold is the one in the ATR.

And yes go ahead an make fun of anyone in North America who claims to have a left hand drive Type S (BTW the Type S does not have a moonroof either, or at least none of the cars I've seen do).

Gabe

 

i'm picking nits...
very similar but still different.
some vendor is selling JDM Type S intake manifolds. waste of money?

 

IMHO yes it's a waste of money. The runners are only slightly larger (and I think it's only the secondaries that are larger) and it may be slightly polished on the inside (not 100% sure about that) so it's not going to net you much except a lighter wallet. And I'm sure it's probably quite expensive considering it's a JDM part.

Some vendors sell JDM Type S headers which are totally worthless IMHO. They share the same primaries as the stock headers and the downpipe is only slightly better. Plus for the $500 that the Type S header is selling for you could probably find a much better piece.

Gabe

 

the only diff with the S spec manifold is that the material is smoother..
nothing more

accord Euro-R manifold is something else..
same design as B18c Rs..

direct with small angle.. but i'ts a PITA to change to cause there is a lot of sensors and stuff involved with that..

 

There must be some drawback to single runner intake manifolds like the ITR and Si B16 have? Perhaps loss in low-end power? Why do the regular B's and H's get dual intake runners? Seems to me single runner is easier/cheaper to manufacture so why not put it on all engines?