I am really impressed with what I have seen from the SMSP header. I am most likely going to put it on my R. But what are some of the Pros/Cons of this header. Is there any other particular header that you could it compare it to. Also, would the Spoon B-pipe and N1 muffler, and SMSP header make a good combination.

 

I have yet to hear of any cons other than price and waiting time. Thats normal with a custom header though

 

Cons and a SMS header just dont go together, there are NO cons with this header. People bitch about the wait time and the price, but i guess people these days are just impatient.

With the Setup you are looking to go with, I gained 23whp by just putting on the sms header, custom 2.5inch bpipe and a spoon N1. is it worth it.....definitely.

 

IMO to me the only con that there is (is not a big deal ) but still out there that on a b18c 2.0L(since the header tubes are a bit bigger then the ones for a 1.8l) is the fact that you do have to remove that brace which connects your tranny and motor do to the larger pipes .

 

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With the Setup you are looking to go with, I gained 23whp by just putting on the sms header, custom 2.5inch bpipe and a spoon N1. is it worth it.....definitely. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I plan on using the SMS header with the Spoon B-pipe and the N1 muffler. That will most likely be the first mod done to the car.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PacMan ITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cons and a SMS header just dont go together, there are NO cons with this header. People bitch about the wait time and the price, but i guess people these days are just impatient.

With the Setup you are looking to go with, I gained 23whp by just putting on the sms header, custom 2.5inch bpipe and a spoon N1. is it worth it.....definitely. </TD></TR></TABLE>

What are your modifications? 23whp, where did most of this gain come from?

I believe you have to remove something, like a bracket to use this header?

 

Uhm.. 23whp from a header? Are those 23whp like the AEBS 23whp's? No disrespect to Dave, cos I know he makes the shitz, but 23whps from a header? I dont think you'll get 23whps from just a header, even if its made from purified donkypoop by munks in a temple on the westcoast of Tahiti.

But then again, I could be wrong.

 

is the smsp header different for b18c1?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lustedp &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is the smsp header different for b18c1?</TD></TR></TABLE> im pretty sure it has a smaller collector but the itr one will fit .. just need to get that cat cut and needs to be 2.5

 

only con extenting the o2 wires if you have a b20 header . the thing is worth every penny . get it

 

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Hell yea!

 

I have to say that through the 10 or so i have seen, i have to give a 10 to craftmanship, coating, and powergains. Gottsa love that.

You wont go wrong if you are thinking of buying it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by strepto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Uhm.. 23whp from a header? Are those 23whp like the AEBS 23whp's? No disrespect to Dave, cos I know he makes the shitz, but 23whps from a header? I dont think you'll get 23whps from just a header, even if its made from purified donkypoop by munks in a temple on the westcoast of Tahiti.

But then again, I could be wrong.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I gained 20hp over a DC JDM 4-1 with mine...Dave's products are awesome. I too can drag out some dynos.

 

SMS is worth get in , i seen some nice dyno sheets . Thats my next header

 

did u read what he wrote? he never said 23whp from the header alone

 

SUP sean ! its quang.. i see your planning some shiet for the R =D already huh ? hows everything going ? let me know wassup shoot me some pics.. i'll show u new pics of my car soon , gonna have a photo shoot ..u should run the TODA header ..im gonna try those out and i'll let u know wassup..

 

Please excuse my poor attempt on humor! I know the SMSP is the best of the best. Which reminds me, Ive tried to send him some orders on his mail, as well as PM, but no answer. This is like 3 weeks ago. Do any of you guys know how I can get a hold of him?

 

im sure when u add his 2L big tube header, you will definatly pass the 230whp mark , you wait ahead of you, im still waiting on mine.

nick

 

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nick</TD></TR></TABLE>

im hoping to accomplish 240whp

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Weapon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did u read what he wrote? he never said 23whp from the header alone </TD></TR></TABLE>

im not specting 23whp over my set up , since i have run ericks racing header on the dyno on my b18c 2.0l , but will see what gains can be achieve w/ also the new head p n p that i have got

 

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Uhm.. 23whp from a header? Are those 23whp like the AEBS 23whp's? No disrespect to Dave, cos I know he makes the shitz, but 23whps from a header? I dont think you'll get 23whps from just a header, even if its made from purified donkypoop by munks in a temple on the westcoast of Tahiti.
But then again, I could be wrong. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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You want me to drag out those dyno charts <u>again</u>!?</TD></TR></TABLE>

My thoughts exactly, I POSTED MY DYNO SHEETS, AND SO DID GEORGE, THEY ARE ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL OVER THE PLACE, GO SEARCH. We have nothing to lie about.

 

Well, the only con that I can think of is good luck getting it smogged in CA.
Unless the smog check guy you get has has 20/200000 vision...

--
George

 

Dave's stuff kicks ***.

I don't own anything of his, but he made my existing equipment a lot better and was a gentleman about it. I wish I had gone with his header and exhaust in the first place.

-Rosstopher

 

where can u get a SMSP header

 

i believe he said 23 whp from the header, the spoon n1, and b-pipe, not just the header...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PlikityPLAH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i believe he said 23 whp from the header, the spoon n1, and b-pipe, not just the header...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I made about 22hp more from just the header change alone. Believe it