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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 12:52 PM
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Default Carbon Sunroof plug kit for 88-91 CRX -- SCCA rule change for 2004' 56K Beware

Just wanted to let you guys know we have a new product for your car. This plug kit will shave about 35 lbs. The kit weighs 2 lbs. Here are a few pictures of one installed on a b16 turbo crx.

Before


Holes Drilled using lacating tool included in the kit


Brackets mounted, notice they don't go lower than the flange


Panel bolted to the car top with countersunk machine screws and tiny nylocks, these will come in black or silver


Drive rivet, no rivet gun required, just tap the back and attach the bracket to the car


Taped off and ready to seal the gap


Black silicon applied with finger and ice cube to smooth the silicon. Silicon will not stick to the silicon


Finished with smooth seal


The sunroof plug itself is a prepreg carbon, fabric/uni panel that is glossy on both the inside and outside and UV clear coated. It fits flush with the body line and when you install the headliner you don't even see the brackets. Install time is about 2 hours and it comes with all the instructions and a template for bracket mounting.

If you haven't taken your sunroof out you will be amazed at how heavy it is. Weight is bad but weight up high is very bad. This will improve the performance of your car. The only downside is you can't open your sunroof unless you un-install.

We are working on the 92-95 coupe and hatch, should be available in two weeks. Many more to follow. SCCA is allowing this mod in many classes as of 1/1/04

*Rodney gets the first 92-95 kit*

Street Mod, Street Mod2 and prepared, there may be more.

This kit is $360 and the CRX kit is in stock now.
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 12:56 PM
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Any posibility on lowering the price for the CRX sunroof kit?? $360 is just too much. My cf hood wasn't much more than that!
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 01:00 PM
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Very pretty but I don't rememeber seeing the rule change. Which FasTrack was it published in?

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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 01:25 PM
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Edit. The stock sunroof is only 28 but the kit still shaves 26 lbs.

It was in the Oct 03 Fasttrack
Item 17

http://www.scca.org/news/tech/...k.pdf
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 02:16 PM
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Would this be legal for HC.
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 02:21 PM
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Ahh. SoloII confusion. You should write to the Comp Board and ask that the IT rules be adjusted to reflect change...

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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 02:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiRex91 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Any posibility on lowering the price for the CRX sunroof kit?? $360 is just too much. My cf hood wasn't much more than that!</TD></TR></TABLE>

These are not volume production in taiwan like your CF hood probably was.

RJ - who thinks its pretty f'in cool, and composites kick ***.
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 02:24 PM
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this rules change only applies to SoloII Street Modified and Street Modified 2 classes. which really seems like a waste of an allowance if you ask me, since you can remove sunroofs and t-tops already in those classes.

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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 02:25 PM
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how about a kit for my heavy *** '99 civic si!
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 02:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by solo-x &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this rules change only applies to SoloII Street Modified and Street Modified 2 classes. which really seems like a waste of an allowance if you ask me, since you can remove sunroofs and t-tops already in those classes.

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What about Prepared classes?
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 02:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cheap Bastard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how about a kit for my heavy *** '99 civic si!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes that is coming soon, like within a month. Stay tuned.
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 02:43 PM
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Ok. one can remove the sunroof in SM but that does not allow the removal of the actuation mechanism and associated hardware. Correct?
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 02:45 PM
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I would be interested if it was NASA approved for the honda-challenge....
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 02:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok. one can remove the sunroof in SM but that does not allow the removal of the actuation mechanism and associated hardware. Correct? </TD></TR></TABLE>

It's all connected, without the panel there is nowhere to mount the rails and motor.
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 05:41 PM
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Default Re: Carbon Sunroof plug kit for 88-91 CRX -- SCCA rule change for 2004' 56K Beware (solo-x)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by solo-x &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this rules change only applies to SoloII Street Modified and Street Modified 2 classes. which really seems like a waste of an allowance if you ask me, since you can remove sunroofs and t-tops already in those classes.

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Well in the case of T-tops or a pop-out glass sunroof (from the factory at least, not sure on aftermarket) that is true. In fact its true for Stock, Street Prepared and StreetTouring as well as StreetMod/2. Running without those panels falls under the "accepted operating configurations" (or however its termed) for those vehicles so equipped. Just like a convertible can run top up or top down.

But in this case (CRX with a tilt sunroof) you can't legally unbolt the panel from the rails and leave it in the paddock. That's not a factory configuration. With this allowance, that would now be legal (starting Jan. 1, 2004). This rule does affect quite a bit of SM cars.
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 05:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok. one can remove the sunroof in SM but that does not allow the removal of the actuation mechanism and associated hardware. Correct? </TD></TR></TABLE>

No, it actually does allow for it. DL that .pdf referenced earlier. Page 12 of the document:

ITEM 17) Effective 1/1/2004, add new section to Solo II Rules Section 18.1 as follows:

...YADA, YADA, YADA (stuff about removal)...Any actuation mechanism and the associated wiring, if any, may be removed.
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Old Oct 3, 2003 | 12:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by XrcR6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
With this allowance, that would now be legal (starting Jan. 1, 2004). This rule does affect quite a bit of SM cars.</TD></TR></TABLE>

correct. until this fastrack update, i <U>was not</U> able to remove the sunroof in my 94 si <U>legally</U> for SM. now i can legally compete with a civic cx/dx/vx! THANKS CRX12!!
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Old Oct 3, 2003 | 02:48 AM
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quite frankly, for the cost of what this guy is selling this kit for, you can buy the DX roof skin and have it spot welded back on for the same price including labor probably. but yeah, cant get enough carbon fiber.....
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Old Oct 3, 2003 | 03:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">quite frankly, for the cost of what this guy is selling this kit for, you can buy the DX roof skin and have it spot welded back on for the same price including labor probably. but yeah, cant get enough carbon fiber.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

actually, that is not legal for SM. even though i probably won't get protested, it's still illegal, and i could be subject for protest. i went through the scenario already.
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Old Oct 3, 2003 | 04:36 AM
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Ok this looks like a nice kit and all and a thumbs up for a nice product...

But being the cheap *** that I am... I feel a carefully trimmed piece of fiberglass or even lexan would do the same job at a fraction of the cost.
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Old Oct 3, 2003 | 05:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok this looks like a nice kit and all and a thumbs up for a nice product...

But being the cheap *** that I am... I feel a carefully trimmed piece of fiberglass or even lexan would do the same job at a fraction of the cost.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks. One thing to note here. Yes you can do it yourself with the ususal suspects but our kit comes with instructions and all the mounting hardware that you need to fit the panel perfectly. It even includes black RTV silicon, very small black coutersunk machine screws, black Nylock nuts, drive rivets so you don't even need a rivet gun, and custom predrilled mounting brackets. None of those things can be had at hardware stores because the kit was engineered. The kit is very well thought out and it could turn a 6-8 hour Saturday project and many trips to Home Depot into a 1 hour trouble free install that you don't have to paint or have the top of your head sunburned while you drive the cones.

A lot of guys might start the project and then realize that it's pretty tough to use regular rivets to mount their home made "L" brackets because the flat part of the flange is less than 1/4" deep. You have less room than that if you want the panel to fit flush. The rivet hole that mounts the bracket has to be in the right spot or you'll drill below the flat part of the flange or you'll drill the hole to close the the inside corner of the "L" bracket and then either a rivet head won't fit or you'll realize that even if the rivet fits try getting a rivet gun on it with the bracket interference. You can't get drive rivets just anywhere. This is the reason we use them. Our kit also comes with a bracket positioning tool so the panel is installed flush with the body line, abracket positioning diagram, and 8 page instruction manual with pics.

BTW we can sell you just the water jet cut panel for $250 but you'll wish you just paid another $100 to get everything.
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Old Oct 3, 2003 | 06:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crx12 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
BTW we can sell you just the water jet cut panel for $250 but you'll wish you just paid another $100 to get everything. </TD></TR></TABLE>




i am not one to put something on my car if it doesn't work. to be honest, i could take a piece of tin, and rivet to the roof (providing i do not go larger than one inch in any direction) but the tin will require some sort of bracing (depending on how thin you go) and if you get thicker stock, it'll just end up weighing more. and to top it off, that would be a permanent modification, whereas using adam's carbon sunroof plug allows sunroof replacement in a matter of hours without needing to bondo all the holes you drilled in the roof.
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Old Oct 3, 2003 | 06:20 AM
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No, it actually does allow for it. DL that .pdf referenced earlier. Page 12 of the document:

ITEM 17) Effective 1/1/2004, add new section to Solo II Rules Section 18.1 as follows:

...YADA, YADA, YADA (stuff about removal)...Any actuation mechanism and the associated wiring, if any, may be removed.
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Hey Alan your kit shipped yesterday.
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just wondering if we could see a pic of the sun roof from the inside of the car after install.
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Old Oct 3, 2003 | 07:31 AM
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Here you go.



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