I just turn the car on and this Bluish/white smoke was pouring out of the car. I hve never sen this before. It eventuall went away, but it had an odd smell to it. Anyone have any ideas?

Cams, Pistons, Advanced timing done.

 

what kind of pistons do you have?

I suggest you pull your spark plugs and check them to make sure there isn't any oil or build up on them.

If there is. You have a faulty ring.

 

CTR pistons...I just changed the spark plugs two weeks ago. I knew it was oil

Actually if there were faulty rings or bad cyclinder wall, would a compression test show it? I just did one a week ago and cyc. 1-3 wa 215 and 4 was about 208

 

yeah, a leakdown test would show

but the most obvious sign would be just the oil buidling up on the spark plug. It could just be a faulty oil ring and the 1st and 2ndary rings are fine. Then the oil is being pushed up into the combustion chamber and being burned.

I got a friend with the same problem. Same cylinder (#4). His car runs fine, but it just burns oil up in HIGH rpms (8K+). So I dunno if he wants to rip it all apart just to replace 1 piston.

 

yeah im gonna pull the spark plugs..You think that cyclinder 4 is the problem? even though it's not much lower, compression wise?

I do burn oil at high RPM's

 

If it only smokes when you first start your car and not while you are driving, it is likely your valve seals, not your piston rings.

 

ok, just pulled the plugs. There "some" oil on the thread of the spark plug in cylinder 3. Also when i shine the light into it , i see oil on it (not sure what im looking at) and i dont see this on any of the other's. Does this narrow it down? Should i be nervous?

 

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I do burn oil at high RPM's </TD></TR></TABLE>

well you'll know exactly when you pull the plugs. The thing will be covered in oil.

I'd make a good guess it's #4 like I said earlier it could just be the oil rings at the bottom that didn't get a good spec gap or the alignment is wrong. The 1st and 2ndary might be sealing correctly to obtain a decent compression, but when you rev the car high it's not going to matter. The oil is going to be forced into the cumbustion chamber and burned.

I'll have to take a pic of that spark plug tonight. I kept it when he changed his. The thing is fouled out. lol you cant miss it.

 

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how bad is the ignition tip? Is there oil on that? **** let me go get my camera...

 

This is prolly worst case scenario



your rings = fucked lol

 

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your rings = fucked lol

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No its not really like that...it seemed to be on the thread..the threads looked that "color" but that tip looked normal..

 

**** i wish my camera worked...anyone have a pic on a "normal" looking plug?

 

this is a pretty normal plug, due for replacement, but no oil on it.

 

see that more or less what it looked like but when i "wiped" the threads some oil camem off it. Im ******* confused.

 

it happen all the time when you start up your car?

 

if the thread is covered in oil, the the plug seals could be gone. i know thats what happened to me.
check that before rebuilding the motor with new rings or anythying hey

but yeah... blue smoke is not a good sign. in my old cars it's always meant time to ditch the motor.

 

couldnt just be a bad valve seal, maybe one popped out. i would look into that beefore a ring. also, isnt there a seal inside the valve cover that will leak into one of the cylinders.

 

you also said white smoke, that would be coolant burning. a headgasket problem.

 

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Actually if there were faulty rings or bad cyclinder wall, would a compression test show it? I just did one a week ago and cyc. 1-3 wa 215 and 4 was about 208</TD></TR></TABLE>


How does a compression test work?

 

i was thinking coolant, could it be fuel too?? Today was the forst day i noticed it, the smoke i mean.

compression was 215 in cyclinder 1-3 and 4 was 209.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iluvdrt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">couldnt just be a bad valve seal, maybe one popped out. i would look into that beefore a ring. also, isnt there a seal inside the valve cover that will leak into one of the cylinders.</TD></TR></TABLE>

how could i check that??? what seal inside the valve cover?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slimbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if the thread is covered in oil, the the plug seals could be gone. i know thats what happened to me.
check that before rebuilding the motor with new rings or anythying hey

but yeah... blue smoke is not a good sign. in my old cars it's always meant time to ditch the motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>

my motor only has 40,000 miles, its a 2001. Wheres the plug seal?? Help me!!

 

is it under warranty? with only 2 years and 40k miles? unless you rode the **** out of the motor, its covered.

 

would they cover that?

 

If it's still under warantee, they should have a look and see what the problem is at the least.