skunk2 manifold for b18c1
skunk2 manifold for b18c1.. reviews/thoughts/comments
planning on getting one just trying to do some research, see how it performs
tried to search.. all i got was forsale posts
thanks
planning on getting one just trying to do some research, see how it performs
tried to search.. all i got was forsale posts
thanks
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I have a 94 GSR, i/h/e, ctr Intake cam, skunk2 IM, and my custom all motor chipped p28 ecu. When i got on the manifold, i noticed throttle response was better and the top end kicked ***! I could definately feel the gains......well worth it! If you want to see my dyno graph, click on my vouch thread in my sig...the guy who dynoed my car posted my graph! If you have any questions, feel free to PM me
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We put one on a '94 GSR Sedan. Picked up 8whp and -1wtq by bolting it on. After tuning with a chipped P28 and VAFC we were able to pick up another 2-3whp and made up that loss in TQ. So we gained around 10-11 whp and TQ stayed the same throughout. Worth it.
I've had mine on for 8 months and love it. it certainly needs new Cams (im running ITR). the throttle response is improved, and power up to is improved. waiting to get my setup properly tuned, and I hope to gain a few more
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc2monkie »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i heard that you lose HP from the skunk2 mani without cams. you lose HP but gain TQ. something like that. i'm not too sure.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You lose HP in mid, but gain some after 7.5Krpm.
My friend's GSR lost 5hp between 4-6K rpm on the dyno AFTER tuning compared to the stock GSR int manifold. The car had I/H/E and ITR cams, and headwork, but stock bottom gsr block. Anybody else do any dyno comparison and notice the loss in the mid?
If you have I/H/E and if you are not planning building the block and head and use big cams, and rev beyond 8100, the skunk2 manifold is not worth it.
You lose HP in mid, but gain some after 7.5Krpm.
My friend's GSR lost 5hp between 4-6K rpm on the dyno AFTER tuning compared to the stock GSR int manifold. The car had I/H/E and ITR cams, and headwork, but stock bottom gsr block. Anybody else do any dyno comparison and notice the loss in the mid?
If you have I/H/E and if you are not planning building the block and head and use big cams, and rev beyond 8100, the skunk2 manifold is not worth it.
Bullshit. Take another stab at tuning then. Like I said I/TB/Skunk2 manifold/H/C/E that's it '94 GSR Sedan. Gained power across the board from 3,000rpm and up and lost no TQ whatsoever. It's worth it in my book. A lot has to do with the ECU. You should NOT run a stock GSR ecu. Chipped P28 with around a 5,000-5,500rpm vtec point and AFC for fine tuning. As what we did in this particular appliacation.
worth every penny, tuning is key along with the right ecu, me and milano on a first shot tuning it and only 1 hour tuning time with a skunk2 program, and the mods he listed above pulled out 168 and that was in 100 degree heat.
damn, i learned more about the Skunk2 manifold in this thread than in the one I posted about. Good stuff
So basically the consensus is: don't bother putting on the skunk2 mani unless you have different/more agressive cams or else you'll actually lose power? Am I understanding this right? I have a b16 in my crx and just ordered the Skunk2 IM, and I was debating on whether or not to put it on before I get my CTR cams, or after. I do have a mugen spec pr3 ECU though, so it's got a touch more of an aggressive fuel program. I'm wondering if that might help compensate for the power that everybody seems to be traditionally losing in low end when putting it on a stock application, but i'm unsure. Any thoughts?
So basically the consensus is: don't bother putting on the skunk2 mani unless you have different/more agressive cams or else you'll actually lose power? Am I understanding this right? I have a b16 in my crx and just ordered the Skunk2 IM, and I was debating on whether or not to put it on before I get my CTR cams, or after. I do have a mugen spec pr3 ECU though, so it's got a touch more of an aggressive fuel program. I'm wondering if that might help compensate for the power that everybody seems to be traditionally losing in low end when putting it on a stock application, but i'm unsure. Any thoughts?
I think that you missed the side of the arguement from me and milano here. I have stock cams, not even cam gears, and it picked about 10 at the wheels. Please recognize that yes with more aggressive cams the likelyhood a "big" power gains go up, but that should not be an excuse not to put it on. An ecu is a must for it to make noticable power and run smoothly. Tuning is HIGHLY recommended as well.
P.S i made more power all the way throught the powerband.
P.S i made more power all the way throught the powerband.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94gsr4dr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think that you missed the side of the arguement from me and milano here. I have stock cams, not even cam gears, and it picked about 10 at the wheels. Please recognize that yes with more aggressive cams the likelyhood a "big" power gains go up, but that should not be an excuse not to put it on. An ecu is a must for it to make noticable power and run smoothly. Tuning is HIGHLY recommended as well.
P.S i made more power all the way throught the powerband.</TD></TR></TABLE>ok, so with a mildly stock setup like I have(I dont really consider a chipped ecu like i have as a huge difference, just a touch more of an advantage), what kind of tuning are you referring to?
P.S i made more power all the way throught the powerband.</TD></TR></TABLE>ok, so with a mildly stock setup like I have(I dont really consider a chipped ecu like i have as a huge difference, just a touch more of an advantage), what kind of tuning are you referring to?
I have a skunk2 intake manifold on my car, when I installed it all I had was CAI, DC sports 4-1 header carsound high flow car and an apex n1 exhaust, and i noticed alot of HP the very frist time I drove it without any tunning! I would totally recomand this mod!!
Most of the other intake manifold on the market like JG/Vennom/STR are designed for forced induction and on those intake manifolds you will loose power, but the Skunk2 IM is designed for N/A applications and they do make HP and tq on stock engines
Most of the other intake manifold on the market like JG/Vennom/STR are designed for forced induction and on those intake manifolds you will loose power, but the Skunk2 IM is designed for N/A applications and they do make HP and tq on stock engines
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92 civic VX B18c »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a skunk2 intake manifold on my car, when I installed it all I had was CAI, DC sports 4-1 header carsound high flow car and an apex n1 exhaust, and i noticed alot of HP the very frist time I drove it without any tunning! I would totally recomand this mod!!
Most of the other intake manifold on the market like JG/Vennom/STR are designed for forced induction and on those intake manifolds you will loose power, but the Skunk2 IM is designed for N/A applications and they do make HP and tq on stock engines</TD></TR></TABLE>see, this is where i get the most confused; because there are people that make comments like this(they do make hp and tq on stock engines)and the people that tell me i will lose power unless im using different cams. I dont get it.
Most of the other intake manifold on the market like JG/Vennom/STR are designed for forced induction and on those intake manifolds you will loose power, but the Skunk2 IM is designed for N/A applications and they do make HP and tq on stock engines</TD></TR></TABLE>see, this is where i get the most confused; because there are people that make comments like this(they do make hp and tq on stock engines)and the people that tell me i will lose power unless im using different cams. I dont get it.
I put on the Skunk manifold and AnR gasket with intake, stock TB, header, testpipe, exhaust. After I installed mine there was a definate increase in power, I know this for a fact. I pulled a car length on cars that I was previously DEAD even with.
I think the main reasons why some people loose power is because of the inconsistancies of the quality of the manifolds. I was talking with Brad from RLZ engineering, and he said that when port matching the manifolds, the runners on each one could be pretty much on target, or really off on others.
You will lose some low end with the skunk manifold untuned, but who cares, you don't race from 2000-5000 RPM.
I think the main reasons why some people loose power is because of the inconsistancies of the quality of the manifolds. I was talking with Brad from RLZ engineering, and he said that when port matching the manifolds, the runners on each one could be pretty much on target, or really off on others.
You will lose some low end with the skunk manifold untuned, but who cares, you don't race from 2000-5000 RPM.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92 civic VX B18c »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but the Skunk2 IM is designed for N/A applications and they do make HP and tq on stock engines</TD></TR></TABLE>
The Skunk2 IM likes forced induction as well. I made at least 25 more whp(over stock gsr IM), with just the intake manifold.
The Skunk2 IM likes forced induction as well. I made at least 25 more whp(over stock gsr IM), with just the intake manifold.
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The Skunk2 IM likes forced induction as well. I made at least 25 more whp(over stock gsr IM), with just the intake manifold.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's nice to know, but I bet an STR, vennom and JG would give you more hp with Forced induction then the skunk2 would..But those STR/Vennom/JG are not good N/A manifolds
The Skunk2 IM likes forced induction as well. I made at least 25 more whp(over stock gsr IM), with just the intake manifold.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's nice to know, but I bet an STR, vennom and JG would give you more hp with Forced induction then the skunk2 would..But those STR/Vennom/JG are not good N/A manifolds
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VG-EG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are most of you guys running the stock t/b with the skunk manny??
if not...what size are you guys running?
thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
I running my stock T/B although I would like to get a 64mm one to match the opening of the Skunk2 intake manifold
if not...what size are you guys running?
thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
I running my stock T/B although I would like to get a 64mm one to match the opening of the Skunk2 intake manifold
Here's a good Skunk2 thread you all might enjoy..... https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=637556



